Hatton Vs Witter.Who wins? POLL,VOTE NOW.

[Fenster]

Those fights were at similar times.

But If you'd like additional proof of this point, you can see Hatton dredge it out with wins over Urango, Tackie and Collazo.

Junior has looked shaky in himself every time he's not having things his own way.

I think Hatton is a terrific fighter.

Your comparison is rubbish. The circumstances are completely different. Look over it for yourself if you don't believe me.

I saw Witter intimidated out of the fight.

I saw the very presence of Judah preventing Junior from exerting himself, out of fear for his safety. I saw Judah allow the fight to be taken because he was afraid.

I saw Hatton down in the first round, rocked several times outboxing Magee for a win.

Right. And if Hatton was matched with Judah on a weeks notice (laughable ) you would have seen Hatton lying in the middlle of the ring unconcious.

[donnydarkoIRL]

I think Hatton is a terrific fighter.

Your comparison is rubbish. The circumstances are completely different. Look over it for yourself if you don't believe me.

I saw Witter intimidated out of the fight.

I saw the very presence of Judah preventing Junior from exerting himself, out of fear for his safety. I saw Judah allow the fight to be taken because he was afraid.

I saw Hatton down in the first round, rocked several times outboxing Magee for a win.

Right. And if Hatton was matched with Judah on a weeks notice (laughable ) you would have seen Hatton lying in the middlle of the ring unconcious.

That "week" is one of the greatest myths in boxing.
When I first heard that story it was seven weeks.
Then Judah lost, the Witter fans got a little embarassed so it became 5 weeks.
Then a Hatton match became a focal point, it's speculated that Junior had 3 weeks to prepare.
Now it's become a week

Tell me this; before the fight did Junior and his trainer claim they were ready for the fight? or did they say; "well we only had a week to train so we're gonna get beat"

Furthermore, since Witter claims he's "a;ways in shape" for fights, as he did when lobbying to fight Hatton in May, should he not have been in shape anyway for the Judah fight?
Or was Junior lying

You know as well as I do Fenster, that Hatton would never have got into the ring on anything shorter than 3 months notice, not only because of his lefestyle and his essential weight shedding training camps, but also because Warren was protecting him like a star and calculated every fighht he ever managed him in.

[Fenster]

Jason Rowlands, who was set to face Judah, pulled out with about 9 days to go. Witter took the fight at short notice because of money. Simple as.

As you said - Hatton was protected. Witter was not. Witter had to graft his way to the top. A boxing man as yourself should admire the likes of Witter, donny.

If Hatton had been thrown in with Zab you wouldn't be a fan of his now. Because Hatton would be working in his local pulling pints

[ono]

I think Hatton is a terrific fighter.

Your comparison is rubbish. The circumstances are completely different. Look over it for yourself if you don't believe me.

I saw Witter intimidated out of the fight.

I saw the very presence of Judah preventing Junior from exerting himself, out of fear for his safety. I saw Judah allow the fight to be taken because he was afraid.

I saw Hatton down in the first round, rocked several times outboxing Magee for a win.

Right. And if Hatton was matched with Judah on a weeks notice (laughable ) you would have seen Hatton lying in the middlle of the ring unconcious.

I very much doubt that. Judah folds under pressure even easier than your boyfriend does

[donnydarkoIRL]

Jason Rowlands, who was set to face Judah, pulled out with about 9 days to go. Witter took the fight at short notice because of money. Simple as.

As you said - Hatton was protected. Witter was not. Witter had to graft his way to the top. A boxing man as yourself should admire the likes of Witter, donny.

If Hatton had been thrown in with Zab you wouldn't be a fan of his now. Because Hatton would be working in his local pulling pints

Fenster, the 9 days is untrue.
As I said, when I first heard that it was weeks, now it has reduced to days. How would a fighter make weight in 9 days?

Witter took the fight assured everyone that he was in shape and then bombed out, because he was so psychologically imature as a fighter than.

I don't admire any fighter who doesn't prepare adequatly and if Junior claims he wasn't prepared, then thats his fault. When preparing for a world title shot, you have a training camp and prepare accordingly.

As I said, Hatton would have been in training camp before that fight. He never would have been suilly enough to take a fight like that at short notice nor would his weight allow that.

And we all saw what Hatton did to Jason Rowland.

[Fenster]

Jason Rowlands, who was set to face Judah, pulled out with about 9 days to go. Witter took the fight at short notice because of money. Simple as.

As you said - Hatton was protected. Witter was not. Witter had to graft his way to the top. A boxing man as yourself should admire the likes of Witter, donny.

If Hatton had been thrown in with Zab you wouldn't be a fan of his now. Because Hatton would be working in his local pulling pints

Fenster, the 9 days is untrue.
As I said, when I first heard that it was weeks, now it has reduced to days. How would a fighter make weight in 9 days?

Witter took the fight assured everyone that he was in shape and then bombed out, because he was so psychologically imature as a fighter than.

I don't admire any fighter who doesn't prepare adequatly and if Junior claims he wasn't prepared, then thats his fault. When preparing for a world title shot, you have a training camp and prepare accordingly.

As I said, Hatton would have been in training camp before that fight. He never would have been suilly enough to take a fight like that at short notice nor would his weight allow that.

And we all saw what Hatton did to Jason Rowland.

So it's UNTRUE Jason Rowland was meant to fight Judah?

Truth is donny, I don't think you have a clue about any of this. So let me help you -

BBC News | SPORT | British champ leads Tyson undercard

And here's a Witter quote about the Zab fight -

It was a shot in the dark. During my first few years as a pro, I was struggling like mad financially, so when the shot came about it meant a really big payday. I thought: if I don't take it, I've got nothing - all my savings were gone and all my loans were on top of me. As far as the fight went, I didn't have enough experience. I wasn't even British champion and I had nine days to prepare for a shot at Judah, one of the best fighters in the world. I lost on points, but I learned so much. It taught me that I deserved to be at that level.

Small talk: Junior Witter | Sport | guardian.co.uk

[Bomp]

That article was posted 19 days before the fight, so even if Jason pulled out the next day and Witter called in immediately, he'd have 18 days maximum. Good evidence for your point.

Witter HAD to take that fight, very very few fighters have the backing Hatton had during his career, being able to call the shots about every detail of a fight before even becoming a national champion. Granted Hatton's personality and approachability contributed a lot for that to be possible, but he did have it easier than most, he had 30 odd fights with just one of them being debatable top10 (tackie) then got the no.1 fighter in the division gift wrapped in his home town, yet his advisor had the audacity to claim Warren was doing a bad job.

As for some of Witter's performances, every fighter has off days, he's probably stuggled against the likes of Kotelnik due to lack of motivation, just as Hatton struggled with Collazo and Urango, even though he had the motivation to win belts in those instances.

I'm picking Witter to win now just due to current form. You may able to gloss over Hatton's last fight due to the competitio he was fighting, but truth be told he's been anything but convincing since Kostya. Castillo at that point in time was NOT a genuine threat, the result of the fight proved it, it was Rickys easiest fight of probably his last 20.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Jason Rowlands, who was set to face Judah, pulled out with about 9 days to go. Witter took the fight at short notice because of money. Simple as.

As you said - Hatton was protected. Witter was not. Witter had to graft his way to the top. A boxing man as yourself should admire the likes of Witter, donny.

If Hatton had been thrown in with Zab you wouldn't be a fan of his now. Because Hatton would be working in his local pulling pints

Fenster, the 9 days is untrue.
As I said, when I first heard that it was weeks, now it has reduced to days. How would a fighter make weight in 9 days?

Witter took the fight assured everyone that he was in shape and then bombed out, because he was so psychologically imature as a fighter than.

I don't admire any fighter who doesn't prepare adequatly and if Junior claims he wasn't prepared, then thats his fault. When preparing for a world title shot, you have a training camp and prepare accordingly.

As I said, Hatton would have been in training camp before that fight. He never would have been suilly enough to take a fight like that at short notice nor would his weight allow that.

And we all saw what Hatton did to Jason Rowland.

So it's UNTRUE Jason Rowland was meant to fight Judah?

Truth is donny, I don't think you have a clue about any of this. So let me help you -

BBC News | SPORT | British champ leads Tyson undercard

And here's a Witter quote about the Zab fight -

It was a shot in the dark. During my first few years as a pro, I was struggling like mad financially, so when the shot came about it meant a really big payday. I thought: if I don't take it, I've got nothing - all my savings were gone and all my loans were on top of me. As far as the fight went, I didn't have enough experience. I wasn't even British champion and I had nine days to prepare for a shot at Judah, one of the best fighters in the world. I lost on points, but I learned so much. It taught me that I deserved to be at that level.

Small talk: Junior Witter | Sport | guardian.co.uk

Humour me.
Witter is a fighter who claims to always in shape.
Am I right or wrong?

[sonny78]

Humour me.
Witter is a fighter who claims to always in shape.
Am I right or wrong?

Come on Donny, I think we all know theres a difference in always being in shape and being ready for a fight against a p4p ranked fighter in 9 days

How do you think hatton would have done back then with 9 days against KT?

For the record I always thought Witter offered nothing to hatton back then the domestic scene was great and Hatton fought Thaxton, Magee and Jason Rowland, Witter would have been a step back and I think Hatton would have beat him in a good but one sided fight

I still think Hatton will still win but for Witter brings a lot more to the table now

[donnydarkoIRL]

Humour me.
Witter is a fighter who claims to always in shape.
Am I right or wrong?

Come on Donny, I think we all know theres a difference in always being in shape and being ready for a fight against a p4p ranked fighter in 9 days

How do you think hatton would have done back then with 9 days against KT?

For the record I always thought Witter offered nothing to hatton back then the domestic scene was great and Hatton fought Thaxton, Magee and Jason Rowland, Witter would have been a step back and I think Hatton would have beat him in a good but one sided fight

I still think Hatton will still win but for Witter brings a lot more to the table now

I'm just quoting Witter.

He claimed he was in the correct shape before the Judah fight and when he tried to insinuate himself asa Hatton opponent earlier this year he said he is always ready to fight, because he stays in such excellent shape.
He then proceeded to disrespect hatton for letting himself baloon between fights.

Thats correct isn't it?