haye/klitchko confrontation(must watch)!

[El Kabong]

Fine JT.....I am sure Verno Phillips deserves a shot at Kelly Pavlik and Felix Sturm deserves a shot at Joe Calzaghe and Paulie Malinaggi deserves a shot at Floyd Mayweather Jr.


David Haye hasn't done anything...even when Evander Holyfield moved up to heavyweight he accomplished more than Haye at cruiserweight beating: Tillman, Ocasio, Qawi (twice), and De Leon.


Once again the ONLY name on Haye's record is Mormeck...no O'Neil Bell, no Guillermo Jones, no Wayne Braithwaite, no Kelvin Davis, no Firat Arslan, no Darnell Wilson, no Jonathan Banks, no BJ Flores, no nobody except Jean Marc Mormeck.




oh but he deserves a shot because he beat Enzo Maccarinelli?!?!?! JT I hope you sober up soon....I'm worried about you man

[JT Rock]

Fine JT.....I am sure Verno Phillips deserves a shot at Kelly Pavlik and Felix Sturm deserves a shot at Joe Calzaghe and Paulie Malinaggi deserves a shot at Floyd Mayweather Jr.

None of the guys you mentioned ARE UNDISPUTED UNIVERSALLY RECOGNIZED CHAMPIONS OF THEIR DIVISION LIKE HAYE IS

David Haye hasn't done anything...even when Evander Holyfield moved up to heavyweight he accomplished more than Haye at cruiserweight beating: Tillman, Ocasio, Qawi (twice), and De Leon.

See above post, + plus correct me if I'm wrong but I'm seeing about an 8-10 pound difference between the Crusisers from the late 80's till now, and the quality of Heavies is dramatically weaker.

Once again the ONLY name on Haye's record is Mormeck...no O'Neil Bell, no Guillermo Jones, no Wayne Braithwaite, no Kelvin Davis, no Firat Arslan, no Darnell Wilson, no Jonathan Banks, no BJ Flores, no nobody except Jean Marc Mormeck.

Again Haye beat the man to become the man and then beat the #1 contender and now has decided to fight at Heavy what more was there to do for him The fact is people still hold on to the fact that the Heavy weight division should be viewed with reverence and some majestic romance of yesteryear... When the fact is the Heavyweight division is piss poor quality and lacking the most depth than any division in Boxing today...

I believe that after Wlad fights his Mandatories and Wlad wins than most certainly this fight should happen.... Again whats wrong with Haye being outlandish and trying to get his name out there, the man is young, strong athletic and has a flair for showmanship, all of a sudden we rather have a robotic version of Dr Zhivago who is as tentative and scared to fight. HorseShit!!!!!!!

oh but he deserves a shot because he beat Enzo Maccarinelli?!?!?! JT I hope you sober up soon....I'm worried about you man

dont worry about me man I see the bigger picture, its you who puts your faith in a 250lb pussy

[DaxxKahn]

Fine JT.....I am sure Verno Phillips deserves a shot at Kelly Pavlik and Felix Sturm deserves a shot at Joe Calzaghe and Paulie Malinaggi deserves a shot at Floyd Mayweather Jr.

None of the guys you mentioned ARE UNDISPUTED UNIVERSALLY RECOGNIZED CHAMPIONS OF THEIR DIVISION LIKE HAYE IS

David Haye hasn't done anything...even when Evander Holyfield moved up to heavyweight he accomplished more than Haye at cruiserweight beating: Tillman, Ocasio, Qawi (twice), and De Leon.

See above post, + plus correct me if I'm wrong but I'm seeing about an 8-10 pound difference between the Crusisers from the late 80's till now, and the quality of Heavies is dramatically weaker.

Once again the ONLY name on Haye's record is Mormeck...no O'Neil Bell, no Guillermo Jones, no Wayne Braithwaite, no Kelvin Davis, no Firat Arslan, no Darnell Wilson, no Jonathan Banks, no BJ Flores, no nobody except Jean Marc Mormeck.

Again Haye beat the man to become the man and then beat the #1 contender and now has decided to fight at Heavy what more was there to do for him The fact is people still hold on to the fact that the Heavy weight division should be viewed with reverence and some majestic romance of yesteryear... When the fact is the Heavyweight division is piss poor quality and lacking the most depth than any division in Boxing today...

I believe that after Wlad fights his Mandatories and Wlad wins than most certainly this fight should happen.... Again whats wrong with Haye being outlandish and trying to get his name out there, the man is young, strong athletic and has a flair for showmanship, all of a sudden we rather have a robotic version of Dr Zhivago who is as tentative and scared to fight. HorseShit!!!!!!!

oh but he deserves a shot because he beat Enzo Maccarinelli?!?!?! JT I hope you sober up soon....I'm worried about you man

dont worry about me man I see the bigger picture, its you who puts your faith in a 250lb pussy

I don't know JT Lyle talks sense...Think about it mate...What has Haye done at HW?...Why does he garner a bout with Wlad over everyone else?...What about some unifacation bouts?....What about hm fighting a top 10 guy first?....Sultan is 1 fight from his reign as champion....

Povetkin is undefeated, Thompson, Dimitrienko, Virchis, Valuev.....

You may not like them or feel they are worthy but all have put in their work...

McCline while has lost his last 3 was somewhat cheated out of his win over Peter....Not fair to just overlook him and Give a CW a title shot...Ruiz is back and looking damn! good...Boring in the past yes but an established vet who is fighting a new style and capable of wrestling a strap from anyone....He was cheated out of his title flat and that part is a fact.....

All these guys have put in years not a few fights to keep in the title picture....

What has Haye really done?...OK he beat Mormeck and Enzo but before that can you name 3 top 10 opp or even top 15 ranked guys off the top of your head?....Just a bunch of padded names and that is a fact...

So padded that 1 fight before Mormeck he beat Bonin who had something like a 35-1 record but was not even considered a top 25 fighter in the CW division.....

The current crop of heavy's may be a weak one but the guys have put in their tim to stay in the mix and not be overlooked for a recently crowned champion who has a poor resume....

[JT Rock]

Fine JT.....I am sure Verno Phillips deserves a shot at Kelly Pavlik and Felix Sturm deserves a shot at Joe Calzaghe and Paulie Malinaggi deserves a shot at Floyd Mayweather Jr.

None of the guys you mentioned ARE UNDISPUTED UNIVERSALLY RECOGNIZED CHAMPIONS OF THEIR DIVISION LIKE HAYE IS



See above post, + plus correct me if I'm wrong but I'm seeing about an 8-10 pound difference between the Crusisers from the late 80's till now, and the quality of Heavies is dramatically weaker.





Again Haye beat the man to become the man and then beat the #1 contender and now has decided to fight at Heavy what more was there to do for him The fact is people still hold on to the fact that the Heavy weight division should be viewed with reverence and some majestic romance of yesteryear... When the fact is the Heavyweight division is piss poor quality and lacking the most depth than any division in Boxing today...

I believe that after Wlad fights his Mandatories and Wlad wins than most certainly this fight should happen.... Again whats wrong with Haye being outlandish and trying to get his name out there, the man is young, strong athletic and has a flair for showmanship, all of a sudden we rather have a robotic version of Dr Zhivago who is as tentative and scared to fight. HorseShit!!!!!!!

oh but he deserves a shot because he beat Enzo Maccarinelli?!?!?! JT I hope you sober up soon....I'm worried about you man

dont worry about me man I see the bigger picture, its you who puts your faith in a 250lb pussy

I don't know JT Lyle talks sense...Think about it mate...What has Haye done at HW?...Why does he garner a bout with Wlad over everyone else?...What about some unifacation bouts?....What about hm fighting a top 10 guy first?....Sultan is 1 fight from his reign as champion....

Povetkin is undefeated, Thompson, Dimitrienko, Virchis, Valuev.....

You may not like them or feel they are worthy but all have put in their work...

McCline while has lost his last 3 was somewhat cheated out of his win over Peter....Not fair to just overlook him and Give a CW a title shot...Ruiz is back and looking damn! good...Boring in the past yes but an established vet who is fighting a new style and capable of wrestling a strap from anyone....He was cheated out of his title flat and that part is a fact.....

All these guys have put in years not a few fights to keep in the title picture....

What has Haye really done?...OK he beat Mormeck and Enzo but before that can you name 3 top 10 opp or even top 15 ranked guys off the top of your head?....Just a bunch of padded names and that is a fact...

So padded that 1 fight before Mormeck he beat Bonin who had something like a 35-1 record but was not even considered a top 25 fighter in the CW division.....

The current crop of heavy's may be a weak one but the guys have put in their tim to stay in the mix and not be overlooked for a recently crowned champion who has a poor resume....

Haye is starting to arouse a lot of interest for this fight, within a years time of him beating 2 top tenners it will be the fight that everyone will want to see... We all know at this time this fight creates more excitement than any other except maybe a 2nd Peter fight of maybe Valuev just for the dog and pony show it would create

[DaxxKahn]

None of the guys you mentioned ARE UNDISPUTED UNIVERSALLY RECOGNIZED CHAMPIONS OF THEIR DIVISION LIKE HAYE IS



See above post, + plus correct me if I'm wrong but I'm seeing about an 8-10 pound difference between the Crusisers from the late 80's till now, and the quality of Heavies is dramatically weaker.





Again Haye beat the man to become the man and then beat the #1 contender and now has decided to fight at Heavy what more was there to do for him The fact is people still hold on to the fact that the Heavy weight division should be viewed with reverence and some majestic romance of yesteryear... When the fact is the Heavyweight division is piss poor quality and lacking the most depth than any division in Boxing today...

I believe that after Wlad fights his Mandatories and Wlad wins than most certainly this fight should happen.... Again whats wrong with Haye being outlandish and trying to get his name out there, the man is young, strong athletic and has a flair for showmanship, all of a sudden we rather have a robotic version of Dr Zhivago who is as tentative and scared to fight. HorseShit!!!!!!!





dont worry about me man I see the bigger picture, its you who puts your faith in a 250lb pussy

I don't know JT Lyle talks sense...Think about it mate...What has Haye done at HW?...Why does he garner a bout with Wlad over everyone else?...What about some unifacation bouts?....What about hm fighting a top 10 guy first?....Sultan is 1 fight from his reign as champion....

Povetkin is undefeated, Thompson, Dimitrienko, Virchis, Valuev.....

You may not like them or feel they are worthy but all have put in their work...

McCline while has lost his last 3 was somewhat cheated out of his win over Peter....Not fair to just overlook him and Give a CW a title shot...Ruiz is back and looking damn! good...Boring in the past yes but an established vet who is fighting a new style and capable of wrestling a strap from anyone....He was cheated out of his title flat and that part is a fact.....

All these guys have put in years not a few fights to keep in the title picture....

What has Haye really done?...OK he beat Mormeck and Enzo but before that can you name 3 top 10 opp or even top 15 ranked guys off the top of your head?....Just a bunch of padded names and that is a fact...

So padded that 1 fight before Mormeck he beat Bonin who had something like a 35-1 record but was not even considered a top 25 fighter in the CW division.....

The current crop of heavy's may be a weak one but the guys have put in their tim to stay in the mix and not be overlooked for a recently crowned champion who has a poor resume....

Haye is starting to arouse a lot of interest for this fight, within a years time of him beating 2 top tenners it will be the fight that everyone will want to see... We all know at this time this fight creates more excitement than any other except maybe a 2nd Peter fight of maybe Valuev just for the dog and pony show it would create

That much I agree on...It would generate interest if anything just for the simple fact both the HW and CW divisions are about as exciting as watching paint dry....But there is a difference between a fight that will draw interest and it being a fight that Haye deserves a title shot

[El Kabong]

Right now it really doesn't matter what Wlad wants (which is to UNIFY THE DIVISION) he has mandatories and in order to accomplish what everyone says he must do he's going to have to fight Thompson and Povetkin.


David Haye: doesn't deserve shot because he has fought and beaten 0top 10 heavyweights and therefore has no room to talk as much trash as he's talking and he doesn't have any huge fan base outside of the UK assuming he has one there and he brings no more money to the table and he has no belts and using that reasoning he deserves about as much of a shot as Tye Fields.


I am not saying that he's no good, I'm not saying he won't in the future hold a belt, I'm not saying he won't in the future have a huge following but right now he's nobody and like Holyfield did back in the late 80's he's going to have to fight and beat some top heavyweights before he gets a shot

[Kev]

Fine JT.....I am sure Verno Phillips deserves a shot at Kelly Pavlik and Felix Sturm deserves a shot at Joe Calzaghe and Paulie Malinaggi deserves a shot at Floyd Mayweather Jr.

None of the guys you mentioned ARE UNDISPUTED UNIVERSALLY RECOGNIZED CHAMPIONS OF THEIR DIVISION LIKE HAYE IS



See above post, + plus correct me if I'm wrong but I'm seeing about an 8-10 pound difference between the Crusisers from the late 80's till now, and the quality of Heavies is dramatically weaker.





Again Haye beat the man to become the man and then beat the #1 contender and now has decided to fight at Heavy what more was there to do for him The fact is people still hold on to the fact that the Heavy weight division should be viewed with reverence and some majestic romance of yesteryear... When the fact is the Heavyweight division is piss poor quality and lacking the most depth than any division in Boxing today...

I believe that after Wlad fights his Mandatories and Wlad wins than most certainly this fight should happen.... Again whats wrong with Haye being outlandish and trying to get his name out there, the man is young, strong athletic and has a flair for showmanship, all of a sudden we rather have a robotic version of Dr Zhivago who is as tentative and scared to fight. HorseShit!!!!!!!

oh but he deserves a shot because he beat Enzo Maccarinelli?!?!?! JT I hope you sober up soon....I'm worried about you man

dont worry about me man I see the bigger picture, its you who puts your faith in a 250lb pussy

I don't know JT Lyle talks sense...Think about it mate...What has Haye done at HW?...Why does he garner a bout with Wlad over everyone else?...What about some unifacation bouts?....What about hm fighting a top 10 guy first?....Sultan is 1 fight from his reign as champion....

Povetkin is undefeated, Thompson, Dimitrienko, Virchis, Valuev.....

You may not like them or feel they are worthy but all have put in their work...

McCline while has lost his last 3 was somewhat cheated out of his win over Peter....Not fair to just overlook him and Give a CW a title shot...Ruiz is back and looking damn! good...Boring in the past yes but an established vet who is fighting a new style and capable of wrestling a strap from anyone....He was cheated out of his title flat and that part is a fact.....

All these guys have put in years not a few fights to keep in the title picture....

What has Haye really done?...OK he beat Mormeck and Enzo but before that can you name 3 top 10 opp or even top 15 ranked guys off the top of your head?....Just a bunch of padded names and that is a fact...

So padded that 1 fight before Mormeck he beat Bonin who had something like a 35-1 record but was not even considered a top 25 fighter in the CW division.....

The current crop of heavy's may be a weak one but the guys have put in their tim to stay in the mix and not be overlooked for a recently crowned champion who has a poor resume....

Actually Bonin was a big win he was top 10 ranked in the heavyweight division.

I can see where JT is coming from to an extent. When it comes to undisputed champs we expect them to move up and challenge the best straight away. Hopkins moving up to face Tarver, Calzaghe moving up to face Hopkins, Hatton moving up to face Mayweather. Everyone is moaning because Pacman's first fight at lightweight is only against one of the lesser champs and not Campbell or Casamayor.

Rafael Marquez moved up to face Israel Vazquez etc.

So I can see JT's point..........

But David Haye is being such a fucking tool in the way he's acting that he just makes me want to see him get the absolute shit kicked out of him.













I will say this though, a trash talking tool who can't back his shit up I hate, a trash talking tool who is able to back his shit up and do what he claims........they earn my respect.

So when Haye moves up I'll root against him, but if he does pull it off I'll give him the respect he deserves.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

None of the guys you mentioned ARE UNDISPUTED UNIVERSALLY RECOGNIZED CHAMPIONS OF THEIR DIVISION LIKE HAYE IS



See above post, + plus correct me if I'm wrong but I'm seeing about an 8-10 pound difference between the Crusisers from the late 80's till now, and the quality of Heavies is dramatically weaker.





Again Haye beat the man to become the man and then beat the #1 contender and now has decided to fight at Heavy what more was there to do for him The fact is people still hold on to the fact that the Heavy weight division should be viewed with reverence and some majestic romance of yesteryear... When the fact is the Heavyweight division is piss poor quality and lacking the most depth than any division in Boxing today...

I believe that after Wlad fights his Mandatories and Wlad wins than most certainly this fight should happen.... Again whats wrong with Haye being outlandish and trying to get his name out there, the man is young, strong athletic and has a flair for showmanship, all of a sudden we rather have a robotic version of Dr Zhivago who is as tentative and scared to fight. HorseShit!!!!!!!





dont worry about me man I see the bigger picture, its you who puts your faith in a 250lb pussy

I don't know JT Lyle talks sense...Think about it mate...What has Haye done at HW?...Why does he garner a bout with Wlad over everyone else?...What about some unifacation bouts?....What about hm fighting a top 10 guy first?....Sultan is 1 fight from his reign as champion....

Povetkin is undefeated, Thompson, Dimitrienko, Virchis, Valuev.....

You may not like them or feel they are worthy but all have put in their work...

McCline while has lost his last 3 was somewhat cheated out of his win over Peter....Not fair to just overlook him and Give a CW a title shot...Ruiz is back and looking damn! good...Boring in the past yes but an established vet who is fighting a new style and capable of wrestling a strap from anyone....He was cheated out of his title flat and that part is a fact.....

All these guys have put in years not a few fights to keep in the title picture....

What has Haye really done?...OK he beat Mormeck and Enzo but before that can you name 3 top 10 opp or even top 15 ranked guys off the top of your head?....Just a bunch of padded names and that is a fact...

So padded that 1 fight before Mormeck he beat Bonin who had something like a 35-1 record but was not even considered a top 25 fighter in the CW division.....

The current crop of heavy's may be a weak one but the guys have put in their tim to stay in the mix and not be overlooked for a recently crowned champion who has a poor resume....

Actually Bonin was a big win he was top 10 ranked in the heavyweight division.

I can see where JT is coming from to an extent. When it comes to undisputed champs we expect them to move up and challenge the best straight away. Hopkins moving up to face Tarver, Calzaghe moving up to face Hopkins, Hatton moving up to face Mayweather. Everyone is moaning because Pacman's first fight at lightweight is only against one of the lesser champs and not Campbell or Casamayor.

Rafael Marquez moved up to face Israel Vazquez etc.

So I can see JT's point..........

But David Haye is being such a fucking tool in the way he's acting that he just makes me want to see him get the absolute shit kicked out of him.













I will say this though, a trash talking tool who can't back his shit up I hate, a trash talking tool who is able to back his shit up and do what he claims........they earn my respect.

So when Haye moves up I'll root against him, but if he does pull it off I'll give him the respect he deserves.

Don't worry. You won't have to

[mattboxingfan]

This is WAY old!
And im sick of all the Haye haters on this forum comon guys boxing's about upsets and Haye smashing the Klits sisters would be one bad ass upset! Plus it can only do good for the sport, a big mouthed cool heavyweight champion will get more casual fans wanting to watch the PPV's!

[El Kabong]

This is WAY old!
And im sick of all the Haye haters on this forum comon guys boxing's about upsets and Haye smashing the Klits sisters would be one bad ass upset! Plus it can only do good for the sport, a big mouthed cool heavyweight champion will get more casual fans wanting to watch the PPV's!

I'm tired of Brits who talk a bunch of shit and then end up splattered all over the canvas because they are only the best fighter of the UK.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNO1KuwK8d4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSpfIPHZ-JI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzP91Rn0wSE

....and next on that list is that PUNK B*TCH with the WBA belt and hopefully he'll get smacked down like those Brits before him.


....I don't hate British people, just the guys who have the chip on their shoulder for no good reason. If it makes you feel better I dislike Americans that do the very same thing like Sergio Mora and Paulie Malinaggi...I only wish they would get stomped out in such spectacular fashion, Hatton, Khan, and Bisping really set the bar high. I wouldn't mind Kelly pavlik catching a couple punches like that.

[JT Rock]

None of the guys you mentioned ARE UNDISPUTED UNIVERSALLY RECOGNIZED CHAMPIONS OF THEIR DIVISION LIKE HAYE IS



See above post, + plus correct me if I'm wrong but I'm seeing about an 8-10 pound difference between the Crusisers from the late 80's till now, and the quality of Heavies is dramatically weaker.





Again Haye beat the man to become the man and then beat the #1 contender and now has decided to fight at Heavy what more was there to do for him The fact is people still hold on to the fact that the Heavy weight division should be viewed with reverence and some majestic romance of yesteryear... When the fact is the Heavyweight division is piss poor quality and lacking the most depth than any division in Boxing today...

I believe that after Wlad fights his Mandatories and Wlad wins than most certainly this fight should happen.... Again whats wrong with Haye being outlandish and trying to get his name out there, the man is young, strong athletic and has a flair for showmanship, all of a sudden we rather have a robotic version of Dr Zhivago who is as tentative and scared to fight. HorseShit!!!!!!!





dont worry about me man I see the bigger picture, its you who puts your faith in a 250lb pussy

I don't know JT Lyle talks sense...Think about it mate...What has Haye done at HW?...Why does he garner a bout with Wlad over everyone else?...What about some unifacation bouts?....What about hm fighting a top 10 guy first?....Sultan is 1 fight from his reign as champion....

Povetkin is undefeated, Thompson, Dimitrienko, Virchis, Valuev.....

You may not like them or feel they are worthy but all have put in their work...

McCline while has lost his last 3 was somewhat cheated out of his win over Peter....Not fair to just overlook him and Give a CW a title shot...Ruiz is back and looking damn! good...Boring in the past yes but an established vet who is fighting a new style and capable of wrestling a strap from anyone....He was cheated out of his title flat and that part is a fact.....

All these guys have put in years not a few fights to keep in the title picture....

What has Haye really done?...OK he beat Mormeck and Enzo but before that can you name 3 top 10 opp or even top 15 ranked guys off the top of your head?....Just a bunch of padded names and that is a fact...

So padded that 1 fight before Mormeck he beat Bonin who had something like a 35-1 record but was not even considered a top 25 fighter in the CW division.....

The current crop of heavy's may be a weak one but the guys have put in their tim to stay in the mix and not be overlooked for a recently crowned champion who has a poor resume....

Actually Bonin was a big win he was top 10 ranked in the heavyweight division.

I can see where JT is coming from to an extent. When it comes to undisputed champs we expect them to move up and challenge the best straight away. Hopkins moving up to face Tarver, Calzaghe moving up to face Hopkins, Hatton moving up to face Mayweather. Everyone is moaning because Pacman's first fight at lightweight is only against one of the lesser champs and not Campbell or Casamayor.

Rafael Marquez moved up to face Israel Vazquez etc.

So I can see JT's point..........

But David Haye is being such a fucking tool in the way he's acting that he just makes me want to see him get the absolute shit kicked out of him.













I will say this though, a trash talking tool who can't back his shit up I hate, a trash talking tool who is able to back his shit up and do what he claims........they earn my respect.

So when Haye moves up I'll root against him, but if he does pull it off I'll give him the respect he deserves.

Thanks Bilbo, thats exactly my point about #1's moving up and fighting the next best division fighter... Happens all the time but all of a sudden Haye is from Mars because he wants Klitschko

Cocky as he is I'll take charisma and flash over Mr Roboto... Haye accompolished what he set out to do, he has the boards buzzing with negative and positive attention which translates to public interest..

Lets face it the division hasnt seen this kind of anticipation in years

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

I don't know JT Lyle talks sense...Think about it mate...What has Haye done at HW?...Why does he garner a bout with Wlad over everyone else?...What about some unifacation bouts?....What about hm fighting a top 10 guy first?....Sultan is 1 fight from his reign as champion....

Povetkin is undefeated, Thompson, Dimitrienko, Virchis, Valuev.....

You may not like them or feel they are worthy but all have put in their work...

McCline while has lost his last 3 was somewhat cheated out of his win over Peter....Not fair to just overlook him and Give a CW a title shot...Ruiz is back and looking damn! good...Boring in the past yes but an established vet who is fighting a new style and capable of wrestling a strap from anyone....He was cheated out of his title flat and that part is a fact.....

All these guys have put in years not a few fights to keep in the title picture....

What has Haye really done?...OK he beat Mormeck and Enzo but before that can you name 3 top 10 opp or even top 15 ranked guys off the top of your head?....Just a bunch of padded names and that is a fact...

So padded that 1 fight before Mormeck he beat Bonin who had something like a 35-1 record but was not even considered a top 25 fighter in the CW division.....

The current crop of heavy's may be a weak one but the guys have put in their tim to stay in the mix and not be overlooked for a recently crowned champion who has a poor resume....

Actually Bonin was a big win he was top 10 ranked in the heavyweight division.

I can see where JT is coming from to an extent. When it comes to undisputed champs we expect them to move up and challenge the best straight away. Hopkins moving up to face Tarver, Calzaghe moving up to face Hopkins, Hatton moving up to face Mayweather. Everyone is moaning because Pacman's first fight at lightweight is only against one of the lesser champs and not Campbell or Casamayor.

Rafael Marquez moved up to face Israel Vazquez etc.

So I can see JT's point..........

But David Haye is being such a fucking tool in the way he's acting that he just makes me want to see him get the absolute shit kicked out of him.















I will say this though, a trash talking tool who can't back his shit up I hate, a trash talking tool who is able to back his shit up and do what he claims........they earn my respect.

So when Haye moves up I'll root against him, but if he does pull it off I'll give him the respect he deserves.

Thanks Bilbo, thats exactly my point about #1's moving up and fighting the next best division fighter... Happens all the time but all of a sudden Haye is from Mars because he wants Klitschko

Cocky as he is I'll take charisma and flash over Mr Roboto... Haye accompolished what he set out to do, he has the boards buzzing with negative and positive attention which translates to public interest..

Lets face it the division hasnt seen this kind of anticipation in years

I will say it again... Wlad by brutal KO in round 7.


I will also say again that JT only watches boxing to watch the shimmery, half naked man bodys grunt their way around a ring...

[JT Rock]

Actually Bonin was a big win he was top 10 ranked in the heavyweight division.

I can see where JT is coming from to an extent. When it comes to undisputed champs we expect them to move up and challenge the best straight away. Hopkins moving up to face Tarver, Calzaghe moving up to face Hopkins, Hatton moving up to face Mayweather. Everyone is moaning because Pacman's first fight at lightweight is only against one of the lesser champs and not Campbell or Casamayor.

Rafael Marquez moved up to face Israel Vazquez etc.

So I can see JT's point..........

But David Haye is being such a fucking tool in the way he's acting that he just makes me want to see him get the absolute shit kicked out of him.















I will say this though, a trash talking tool who can't back his shit up I hate, a trash talking tool who is able to back his shit up and do what he claims........they earn my respect.

So when Haye moves up I'll root against him, but if he does pull it off I'll give him the respect he deserves.

Thanks Bilbo, thats exactly my point about #1's moving up and fighting the next best division fighter... Happens all the time but all of a sudden Haye is from Mars because he wants Klitschko

Cocky as he is I'll take charisma and flash over Mr Roboto... Haye accompolished what he set out to do, he has the boards buzzing with negative and positive attention which translates to public interest..

Lets face it the division hasnt seen this kind of anticipation in years

I will say it again... Wlad by brutal KO in round 7.


I will also say again that JT only watches boxing to watch the shimmery, half naked man bodys grunt their way around a ring...

Is that why you volunteer to be the fluffer and the oil guy... Hey bud they only want the vasoline on their face not there chest and bum