Quote Originally Posted by pacfan View Post
I have no problem with the theory of evolution but the question is 'if' there indeed were evolution, what force lead those very simple elements to transform into very complex beings called humans.

I think I can sit in front of a big pond with all necessary elements inside and watch it for billion years and still nothing would have happened unless there is some force that will lead them to evolve. This is common sense, there must be some force involved and it must be some guided force, or else it would clearly have been a haphazard sort of evolution, a messy one instead of perfectly symmetrical ones.

This is what I call a life force. Now where this life force is coming from is what we are debating here, right? I think there must be this sort of a central nerve center where these forces come from and where they are guided from. So what or Who can it be. Some deny its existence, some call it a universal mind, while the rest says it's God. The problem with us humans is that we tend to mold God's image with how our very limited mind can imagine. If there was God, He will naturally be someone so complex that he would be way beyond our imagination and comprehension. I guess that's why our mind still can't grasp Him, or else there will be none of this debate, right? Think about it, folks. The problem with some of our science guys is that they tend to think only from a fixed point of view; you got to 'think out of the box' sometimes, so to speak, to see the whole truth. Keep your minds open folks, keep 'em open.
Talking of coincidence, about a week I wrote the above post, the local newspaper Manila Bulletin came with this daily devotional guide:

http://www.mb.com.ph/archive_pages.p...430123218.html

part of which quoted Genesis 1:2,

'...the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters, bringing order out of chaos.'

This is exactly what I was trying to say there on that underlined section of that post. I wrote that without knowing anything about that Bible verse. Actually I've never been that religious and never read the Bible, the book itself I mean. All my religious activity is limited to reading religious article almost exclusively from that newspaper which I subscribe to. The daily guide only features the New Testament parts but the description sections sometimes quote from other parts of the Bible as shown in the link.

This is a good example of what I've been saying, that Bible shouldn't be taken literally. The description 'bringing order out of chaos' IMO means that nature as we see it now wouldn't have formed or evolved in such an intricately precise manner by just leaving it to nature or by some haphazard trial-and-error method as the evolutionalist would want us to believe, but instead must have formed by some guided force I talked about on the above post.