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    Default Re: Oscar de la Hoya Vs Steve Forbes Predictions, rd by rd and Results ETC

    As for DLH against Tony or Cotto....I see him being beaten down in a fight...Not a boxing match what so ever....Cotto will break the body down by the 6th DLH will be moving around like an 80yr old man with arthritis...
    Unless Oscar keeps Tony at the distance like Paul Williams did or unless Oscar connects that left hook to Cotto's jaw to have him dancing like many of Cotto's previous fights.

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    As for DLH against Tony or Cotto....I see him being beaten down in a fight...Not a boxing match what so ever....Cotto will break the body down by the 6th DLH will be moving around like an 80yr old man with arthritis...
    Unless Oscar keeps Tony at the distance like Paul Williams did or unless Oscar connects that left hook to Cotto's jaw to have him dancing like many of Cotto's previous fights.

    Paul Williams won the Tony fight due to Tony not being active early on...He lost by 2pts on 2 of the judges cards and 1 had it 112-116...Williams really did not neutralize Maragrito all that much with the jab...Was it his best weapon in the fight? Yes but also Williams is 6'1 with an 82" reach.....DLH is about 2 inches shorter and has something like a 72 or 73 inch reach...Margarito has an identical height and reach....DLH is not strong enough to keep Tony off with the jab...Tony would make him Figfht and keep the jab out of the factor....

    DLH does not hit that hard anymore and looks slow...The Forbes fight showed how much he has declined....Cotto would keep him on the defensive....Allowing him to attack....Cotto does not have as bad a jaw as everyone makes out....Anyone who is 32-0 and has beaten Mosley in the distance can't have too bad of a chin IMO...Mosley has an impressive KO ration 37 out of 44 wins...a higher percentage rate then DLH so I can't see how you figure the power of Oscar would be a factor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chino View Post
    As for DLH against Tony or Cotto....I see him being beaten down in a fight...Not a boxing match what so ever....Cotto will break the body down by the 6th DLH will be moving around like an 80yr old man with arthritis...
    Unless Oscar keeps Tony at the distance like Paul Williams did or unless Oscar connects that left hook to Cotto's jaw to have him dancing like many of Cotto's previous fights.

    Paul Williams won the Tony fight due to Tony not being active early on...He lost by 2pts on 2 of the judges cards and 1 had it 112-116...Williams really did not neutralize Maragrito all that much with the jab...Was it his best weapon in the fight? Yes but also Williams is 6'1 with an 82" reach.....DLH is about 2 inches shorter and has something like a 72 or 73 inch reach...Margarito has an identical height and reach....DLH is not strong enough to keep Tony off with the jab...Tony would make him Figfht and keep the jab out of the factor....

    DLH does not hit that hard anymore and looks slow...The Forbes fight showed how much he has declined....Cotto would keep him on the defensive....Allowing him to attack....Cotto does not have as bad a jaw as everyone makes out....Anyone who is 32-0 and has beaten Mosley in the distance can't have too bad of a chin IMO...Mosley has an impressive KO ration 37 out of 44 wins...a higher percentage rate then DLH so I can't see how you figure the power of Oscar would be a factor
    Most of Mosley's KO's came when he was steamrolling the lightweight division. He hasn't been much of KO artist in recent ears. If anything the Mosley/Cotto fight showed me that Oscar would stand a very good chance of beating Cotto. If a 36 year old Shane...a Shane Mosley who looked considerably slower....could fight Cotto to a draw (yes...i had the fight a draw)...then i have no idea how some of you think Cotto will dominate Oscar. Oscar, even at this stage of his career, is a more skilled fighter than Cotto. As great and improved a fighter as Cotto is...he still has a porous defense and i'm not sold on his chin. Cotto's biggest advantage is his youth...but his youth didn't exactly carry him to an impressive victory over a well past prime Shane. Some people are gonna hate on Oscar...end of story. He looked slow and weak against Forbes?! Really! Sure, Forbes isn't a tremendous fighter. Sure he is undersized. But he is fast and slick...and isn't the type of fighter who is gonna get knocked out. It was tune up fight people. And it was a clean, mildly entertaining fight at that. And please don't forget...every fighter...EVERY FIGHTER....wants to fight Oscar. You don't think Cotto is dreaming about a mega fight with Oscar?! You don't think Tony would flip out at a chance to get in the ring with Oscar?! Even the world's p4p #1 fighter, Floyd, is dying for a rematch with Oscar...even though he won the first fight! But some of you think it's just Oscar who is all about the money. Boxing is a business and almost everyone is about the $$$.

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    Unless Oscar keeps Tony at the distance like Paul Williams did or unless Oscar connects that left hook to Cotto's jaw to have him dancing like many of Cotto's previous fights.

    Paul Williams won the Tony fight due to Tony not being active early on...He lost by 2pts on 2 of the judges cards and 1 had it 112-116...Williams really did not neutralize Maragrito all that much with the jab...Was it his best weapon in the fight? Yes but also Williams is 6'1 with an 82" reach.....DLH is about 2 inches shorter and has something like a 72 or 73 inch reach...Margarito has an identical height and reach....DLH is not strong enough to keep Tony off with the jab...Tony would make him Figfht and keep the jab out of the factor....

    DLH does not hit that hard anymore and looks slow...The Forbes fight showed how much he has declined....Cotto would keep him on the defensive....Allowing him to attack....Cotto does not have as bad a jaw as everyone makes out....Anyone who is 32-0 and has beaten Mosley in the distance can't have too bad of a chin IMO...Mosley has an impressive KO ration 37 out of 44 wins...a higher percentage rate then DLH so I can't see how you figure the power of Oscar would be a factor
    Most of Mosley's KO's came when he was steamrolling the lightweight division. He hasn't been much of KO artist in recent ears. If anything the Mosley/Cotto fight showed me that Oscar would stand a very good chance of beating Cotto. If a 36 year old Shane...a Shane Mosley who looked considerably slower....could fight Cotto to a draw (yes...i had the fight a draw)...then i have no idea how some of you think Cotto will dominate Oscar. Oscar, even at this stage of his career, is a more skilled fighter than Cotto. As great and improved a fighter as Cotto is...he still has a porous defense and i'm not sold on his chin. Cotto's biggest advantage is his youth...but his youth didn't exactly carry him to an impressive victory over a well past prime Shane. Some people are gonna hate on Oscar...end of story. He looked slow and weak against Forbes?! Really! Sure, Forbes isn't a tremendous fighter. Sure he is undersized. But he is fast and slick...and isn't the type of fighter who is gonna get knocked out. It was tune up fight people. And it was a clean, mildly entertaining fight at that. And please don't forget...every fighter...EVERY FIGHTER....wants to fight Oscar. You don't think Cotto is dreaming about a mega fight with Oscar?! You don't think Tony would flip out at a chance to get in the ring with Oscar?! Even the world's p4p #1 fighter, Floyd, is dying for a rematch with Oscar...even though he won the first fight! But some of you think it's just Oscar who is all about the money. Boxing is a business and almost everyone is about the $$$.

    AHHH see you are another one of those guys who half ass reads a thread then all of a sudden think they have something to say so they rattle off a full paragraph real quick feeling like they just cleared things up

    Don't remember ANYONE here saying Cotto would DOMINATE De La Hoya...break a fighter down and score a KO and dominating are two different things...learn the difference...

    Don't remember ANYONE here saying Margarito would not like a chance to fight DLH....

    So why don't you point those things out for us since you feel so strongly on your statement and educating me on how this is a business....$$$
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by zhubin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post


    Paul Williams won the Tony fight due to Tony not being active early on...He lost by 2pts on 2 of the judges cards and 1 had it 112-116...Williams really did not neutralize Maragrito all that much with the jab...Was it his best weapon in the fight? Yes but also Williams is 6'1 with an 82" reach.....DLH is about 2 inches shorter and has something like a 72 or 73 inch reach...Margarito has an identical height and reach....DLH is not strong enough to keep Tony off with the jab...Tony would make him Figfht and keep the jab out of the factor....

    DLH does not hit that hard anymore and looks slow...The Forbes fight showed how much he has declined....Cotto would keep him on the defensive....Allowing him to attack....Cotto does not have as bad a jaw as everyone makes out....Anyone who is 32-0 and has beaten Mosley in the distance can't have too bad of a chin IMO...Mosley has an impressive KO ration 37 out of 44 wins...a higher percentage rate then DLH so I can't see how you figure the power of Oscar would be a factor
    Most of Mosley's KO's came when he was steamrolling the lightweight division. He hasn't been much of KO artist in recent ears. If anything the Mosley/Cotto fight showed me that Oscar would stand a very good chance of beating Cotto. If a 36 year old Shane...a Shane Mosley who looked considerably slower....could fight Cotto to a draw (yes...i had the fight a draw)...then i have no idea how some of you think Cotto will dominate Oscar. Oscar, even at this stage of his career, is a more skilled fighter than Cotto. As great and improved a fighter as Cotto is...he still has a porous defense and i'm not sold on his chin. Cotto's biggest advantage is his youth...but his youth didn't exactly carry him to an impressive victory over a well past prime Shane. Some people are gonna hate on Oscar...end of story. He looked slow and weak against Forbes?! Really! Sure, Forbes isn't a tremendous fighter. Sure he is undersized. But he is fast and slick...and isn't the type of fighter who is gonna get knocked out. It was tune up fight people. And it was a clean, mildly entertaining fight at that. And please don't forget...every fighter...EVERY FIGHTER....wants to fight Oscar. You don't think Cotto is dreaming about a mega fight with Oscar?! You don't think Tony would flip out at a chance to get in the ring with Oscar?! Even the world's p4p #1 fighter, Floyd, is dying for a rematch with Oscar...even though he won the first fight! But some of you think it's just Oscar who is all about the money. Boxing is a business and almost everyone is about the $$$.

    AHHH see you are another one of those guys who half ass reads a thread then all of a sudden think they have something to say so they rattle off a full paragraph real quick feeling like they just cleared things up

    Don't remember ANYONE here saying Cotto would DOMINATE De La Hoya...break a fighter down and score a KO and dominating are two different things...learn the difference...

    Don't remember ANYONE here saying Margarito would not like a chance to fight DLH....

    So why don't you point those things out for us since you feel so strongly on your statement and educating me on how this is a business....$$$
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post


    Paul Williams won the Tony fight due to Tony not being active early on...He lost by 2pts on 2 of the judges cards and 1 had it 112-116...Williams really did not neutralize Maragrito all that much with the jab...Was it his best weapon in the fight? Yes but also Williams is 6'1 with an 82" reach.....DLH is about 2 inches shorter and has something like a 72 or 73 inch reach...Margarito has an identical height and reach....DLH is not strong enough to keep Tony off with the jab...Tony would make him Figfht and keep the jab out of the factor....

    DLH does not hit that hard anymore and looks slow...The Forbes fight showed how much he has declined....Cotto would keep him on the defensive....Allowing him to attack....Cotto does not have as bad a jaw as everyone makes out....Anyone who is 32-0 and has beaten Mosley in the distance can't have too bad of a chin IMO...Mosley has an impressive KO ration 37 out of 44 wins...a higher percentage rate then DLH so I can't see how you figure the power of Oscar would be a factor
    Most of Mosley's KO's came when he was steamrolling the lightweight division. He hasn't been much of KO artist in recent ears. If anything the Mosley/Cotto fight showed me that Oscar would stand a very good chance of beating Cotto. If a 36 year old Shane...a Shane Mosley who looked considerably slower....could fight Cotto to a draw (yes...i had the fight a draw)...then i have no idea how some of you think Cotto will dominate Oscar. Oscar, even at this stage of his career, is a more skilled fighter than Cotto. As great and improved a fighter as Cotto is...he still has a porous defense and i'm not sold on his chin. Cotto's biggest advantage is his youth...but his youth didn't exactly carry him to an impressive victory over a well past prime Shane. Some people are gonna hate on Oscar...end of story. He looked slow and weak against Forbes?! Really! Sure, Forbes isn't a tremendous fighter. Sure he is undersized. But he is fast and slick...and isn't the type of fighter who is gonna get knocked out. It was tune up fight people. And it was a clean, mildly entertaining fight at that. And please don't forget...every fighter...EVERY FIGHTER....wants to fight Oscar. You don't think Cotto is dreaming about a mega fight with Oscar?! You don't think Tony would flip out at a chance to get in the ring with Oscar?! Even the world's p4p #1 fighter, Floyd, is dying for a rematch with Oscar...even though he won the first fight! But some of you think it's just Oscar who is all about the money. Boxing is a business and almost everyone is about the $$$.

    AHHH see you are another one of those guys who half ass reads a thread then all of a sudden think they have something to say so they rattle off a full paragraph real quick feeling like they just cleared things up

    Don't remember ANYONE here saying Cotto would DOMINATE De La Hoya...break a fighter down and score a KO and dominating are two different things...learn the difference...

    Don't remember ANYONE here saying Margarito would not like a chance to fight DLH....

    So why don't you point those things out for us since you feel so strongly on your statement and educating me on how this is a business....$$$
    Wow! You must feel pretty good about yourself. Let me guess...it's post likes this that give you that thrill of thinking your smart. From most your posts on this thread...it's pretty clear you think Cotto would "dominate" Oscar...as would Tony. I guess statements like "Margarito would just take him out like he snatched his chain in the street" should not be interpreted as one fighter dominating another?! Oh...and to "break a fighter down and score a KO" isn't dominating?! The rest of my post was just my general feelings about this thread. So stop getting your panties in a bunch tough guy.
    Last edited by zhubin; 05-06-2008 at 07:34 PM.

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    Most of Mosley's KO's came when he was steamrolling the lightweight division. He hasn't been much of KO artist in recent ears. If anything the Mosley/Cotto fight showed me that Oscar would stand a very good chance of beating Cotto. If a 36 year old Shane...a Shane Mosley who looked considerably slower....could fight Cotto to a draw (yes...i had the fight a draw)...then i have no idea how some of you think Cotto will dominate Oscar. Oscar, even at this stage of his career, is a more skilled fighter than Cotto. As great and improved a fighter as Cotto is...he still has a porous defense and i'm not sold on his chin. Cotto's biggest advantage is his youth...but his youth didn't exactly carry him to an impressive victory over a well past prime Shane. Some people are gonna hate on Oscar...end of story. He looked slow and weak against Forbes?! Really! Sure, Forbes isn't a tremendous fighter. Sure he is undersized. But he is fast and slick...and isn't the type of fighter who is gonna get knocked out. It was tune up fight people. And it was a clean, mildly entertaining fight at that. And please don't forget...every fighter...EVERY FIGHTER....wants to fight Oscar. You don't think Cotto is dreaming about a mega fight with Oscar?! You don't think Tony would flip out at a chance to get in the ring with Oscar?! Even the world's p4p #1 fighter, Floyd, is dying for a rematch with Oscar...even though he won the first fight! But some of you think it's just Oscar who is all about the money. Boxing is a business and almost everyone is about the $$$.

    AHHH see you are another one of those guys who half ass reads a thread then all of a sudden think they have something to say so they rattle off a full paragraph real quick feeling like they just cleared things up

    Don't remember ANYONE here saying Cotto would DOMINATE De La Hoya...break a fighter down and score a KO and dominating are two different things...learn the difference...

    Don't remember ANYONE here saying Margarito would not like a chance to fight DLH....

    So why don't you point those things out for us since you feel so strongly on your statement and educating me on how this is a business....$$$
    Wow! You must feel pretty good about yourself. Let me guess...it's post likes this that give you that thrill of thinking your smart. From all the posts from you on this thread...it's pretty clear you think Cotto would "dominate" Oscar...as would Tony. I guess statements like " Margarito would just take him out like he snatched his chain in the street". Oh...and to "break a fighter down and score a KO" isn't dominating?! The rest of my post was just my general feelings about this thread. So stop getting your panties in a bunch tough guy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by zhubin View Post

    Most of Mosley's KO's came when he was steamrolling the lightweight division. He hasn't been much of KO artist in recent ears. If anything the Mosley/Cotto fight showed me that Oscar would stand a very good chance of beating Cotto. If a 36 year old Shane...a Shane Mosley who looked considerably slower....could fight Cotto to a draw (yes...i had the fight a draw)...then i have no idea how some of you think Cotto will dominate Oscar. Oscar, even at this stage of his career, is a more skilled fighter than Cotto. As great and improved a fighter as Cotto is...he still has a porous defense and i'm not sold on his chin. Cotto's biggest advantage is his youth...but his youth didn't exactly carry him to an impressive victory over a well past prime Shane. Some people are gonna hate on Oscar...end of story. He looked slow and weak against Forbes?! Really! Sure, Forbes isn't a tremendous fighter. Sure he is undersized. But he is fast and slick...and isn't the type of fighter who is gonna get knocked out. It was tune up fight people. And it was a clean, mildly entertaining fight at that. And please don't forget...every fighter...EVERY FIGHTER....wants to fight Oscar. You don't think Cotto is dreaming about a mega fight with Oscar?! You don't think Tony would flip out at a chance to get in the ring with Oscar?! Even the world's p4p #1 fighter, Floyd, is dying for a rematch with Oscar...even though he won the first fight! But some of you think it's just Oscar who is all about the money. Boxing is a business and almost everyone is about the $$$.

    AHHH see you are another one of those guys who half ass reads a thread then all of a sudden think they have something to say so they rattle off a full paragraph real quick feeling like they just cleared things up

    Don't remember ANYONE here saying Cotto would DOMINATE De La Hoya...break a fighter down and score a KO and dominating are two different things...learn the difference...

    Don't remember ANYONE here saying Margarito would not like a chance to fight DLH....

    So why don't you point those things out for us since you feel so strongly on your statement and educating me on how this is a business....$$$
    Wow! You must feel pretty good about yourself. Let me guess...it's post likes this that give you that thrill of thinking your smart. From all the posts from you on this thread...it's pretty clear you think Cotto would "dominate" Oscar...as would Tony. I guess statements like " Margarito would just take him out like he snatched his chain in the street". Oh...and to "break a fighter down and score a KO" isn't dominating?! The rest of my post was just my general feelings about this thread. So stop getting your panties in a bunch tough guy.


    ......

    Dominating a fighter and breaking him down are two different things....If you dominate a fighter there is no need to break him down....

    Margarito dominated Cintron.....

    Hagler broke down Mugabi...slowly by working him steady.......Learn the difference...

    and I don't think I ever started I did not think Margarito would not KO DLH....

    In Fact you stated That I said Maragrito would not fight DLH and he would jump at the chance...I calrified that for you...

    So again you pay no attention to what is written and taLk out of your ass....And because I prove you wrong and point out your bad posting because you are not even giving correct replies to what has been written does not mean someone is trying to act like a tough guy....SOOOOOOO again you have to be corrected...

    Tell you what save your time posting and give up your internet service for a while...the saved money can go towards my new book..."Boxing 101 for Zhubin"....and the follow up book..."Posting for Dummies"...

    Now be off Junior before I have to pull your pants down and give you a spanking for disrespecting your elders
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    AHHH see you are another one of those guys who half ass reads a thread then all of a sudden think they have something to say so they rattle off a full paragraph real quick feeling like they just cleared things up

    Don't remember ANYONE here saying Cotto would DOMINATE De La Hoya...break a fighter down and score a KO and dominating are two different things...learn the difference...

    Don't remember ANYONE here saying Margarito would not like a chance to fight DLH....

    So why don't you point those things out for us since you feel so strongly on your statement and educating me on how this is a business....$$$
    Wow! You must feel pretty good about yourself. Let me guess...it's post likes this that give you that thrill of thinking your smart. From all the posts from you on this thread...it's pretty clear you think Cotto would "dominate" Oscar...as would Tony. I guess statements like " Margarito would just take him out like he snatched his chain in the street". Oh...and to "break a fighter down and score a KO" isn't dominating?! The rest of my post was just my general feelings about this thread. So stop getting your panties in a bunch tough guy.


    ......

    Dominating a fighter and breaking him down are two different things....If you dominate a fighter there is no need to break him down....

    Margarito dominated Cintron.....

    Hagler broke down Mugabi...slowly by working him steady.......Learn the difference...

    and I don't think I ever started I did not think Margarito would not KO DLH....

    In Fact you stated That I said Maragrito would not fight DLH and he would jump at the chance...I calrified that for you...

    So again you pay no attention to what is written and taLk out of your ass....And because I prove you wrong and point out your bad posting because you are not even giving correct replies to what has been written does not mean someone is trying to act like a tough guy....SOOOOOOO again you have to be corrected...

    Tell you what save your time posting and give up your internet service for a while...the saved money can go towards my new book..."Boxing 101 for Zhubin"....and the follow up book..."Posting for Dummies"...

    Now be off Junior before I have to pull your pants down and give you a spanking for disrespecting your elders
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    AHHH see you are another one of those guys who half ass reads a thread then all of a sudden think they have something to say so they rattle off a full paragraph real quick feeling like they just cleared things up

    Don't remember ANYONE here saying Cotto would DOMINATE De La Hoya...break a fighter down and score a KO and dominating are two different things...learn the difference...

    Don't remember ANYONE here saying Margarito would not like a chance to fight DLH....

    So why don't you point those things out for us since you feel so strongly on your statement and educating me on how this is a business....$$$
    Wow! You must feel pretty good about yourself. Let me guess...it's post likes this that give you that thrill of thinking your smart. From all the posts from you on this thread...it's pretty clear you think Cotto would "dominate" Oscar...as would Tony. I guess statements like " Margarito would just take him out like he snatched his chain in the street". Oh...and to "break a fighter down and score a KO" isn't dominating?! The rest of my post was just my general feelings about this thread. So stop getting your panties in a bunch tough guy.


    ......

    Dominating a fighter and breaking him down are two different things....If you dominate a fighter there is no need to break him down....

    Margarito dominated Cintron.....

    Hagler broke down Mugabi...slowly by working him steady.......Learn the difference...

    and I don't think I ever started I did not think Margarito would not KO DLH....

    In Fact you stated That I said Maragrito would not fight DLH and he would jump at the chance...I calrified that for you...

    So again you pay no attention to what is written and taLk out of your ass....And because I prove you wrong and point out your bad posting because you are not even giving correct replies to what has been written does not mean someone is trying to act like a tough guy....SOOOOOOO again you have to be corrected...

    Tell you what save your time posting and give up your internet service for a while...the saved money can go towards my new book..."Boxing 101 for Zhubin"....and the follow up book..."Posting for Dummies"...

    Now be off Junior before I have to pull your pants down and give you a spanking for disrespecting your elders
    Haha! Jesus christ man! You are s p e c i a l. You are beginning to babble. I don't have time to argue semantics with you. Let me guess...you are one of those people who takes themselves too seriously on this board because you have a certain number of posts. That along with you giving an example of Hagler/Mugabi and all of a sudden you are my elder?! It's just a boxing forum man! So you just keep talking smack behind your computer screen.

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