what are your current P4P top 10???

[:::PSL:::]

Mayweather
JMM (beat pac twice )
Pac
Cotto
Calzaghe

He beat Pac twice with what?.. with weak ass counterpunching? Sorry but imo, fighters who are more aggreesive and inflect bigger damages gets my vote for the win.

Pac sent JMM 4 times to the canvas.

[HattonTheHammer]

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Mayweather
JMM (beat pac twice )
Pac
Cotto
Calzaghe

He beat Pac twice with what?.. with weak ass counterpunching? Sorry but imo, fighters who are more aggreesive and inflect bigger damages gets my vote for the win.

Pac sent JMM 4 times to the canvas.


to be fair though in the first fight JMM recovered from a devastating 3 knock down opening round to dominate the rest of the fight and in my eyes take at least 7 of the remaining 11 rounds!!

By the end of the 2nd fight i had it 114-114 dead level even though pac got a ridiculous 115-112 from one of the judges.

JMM can count himself VERY unlucky not to of scored one win over pac in the 2 contests they fought.

PS:As for the guy who has pavlik over calzaghe.......are you serious??

[boozeboxer]

1. Mayweather
2. PAC
3. Cotto
4. Calzaghe
5. Vazquez
6. JMM
7. Rafa Marquez
8. Pavlik
9. Calderon
10. Wright

I just modified Killersheeps list a little. I think third on down are all validly debatable. Admittedly I don't watch man fighters below around 130. there are alot of really good fighters around now, who you can criticize in this way or that way. but every one of them I think, "gosh Calzaghe beat Hopkins, Kessler, reigned over the division for 10 years". Or Vazquez "is coming off winning the greatest trilogy ever." Or Cotto has dismantled everyone he has faced including Mosely and made Paulie take a huge one sided beating (and Paulie has since become a star in his own right.) JMM has a great resume behind him and fought Pac and always showing of himself.

Pavlik has been very dominant as a limited fighter.

The weakest name I have on my list is Winky at tenth. Coming off a loss to a man who just lost, and lengthy inactivity he is hard to put on any list. However, he has been a super tough opponent with one of the greatest career resumes as anyone in the game. Also he made a good showing of himself in the deep waters of a much heavier division against Hopkins in a fight I thought was poorly refereed. To overcome all of this he should have made the fight with Kessler or someone very soon afterwards.

All good lists and i like the discussion.

[BIG H]

Mayweather
JMM (beat pac twice )
Pac
Cotto
Calzaghe

He beat Pac twice with what?.. with weak ass counterpunching? Sorry but imo, fighters who are more aggreesive and inflect bigger damages gets my vote for the win.

Pac sent JMM 4 times to the canvas.

What a surprise you piped up

[Pugilistic]

Mayweather
JMM (beat pac twice )
Pac
Cotto
Calzaghe

He beat Pac twice with what?.. with weak ass counterpunching? Sorry but imo, fighters who are more aggreesive and inflect bigger damages gets my vote for the win.

Pac sent JMM 4 times to the canvas.

you call this weak. LOL !!!



as for my top 10

1.Floyd Mayweather Jr
2. Manny Pacquaio
3. Joe Calzaghe
4. Juan Manuel Marquez
5. Bernard Hopkins
6. Miguel Cotto
7. Izrael Vasquez
8. Kelly Pavlik
9. Wladimir Klitschko
10. Ricky Hatton

[:::PSL:::]

Mayweather
JMM (beat pac twice )
Pac
Cotto
Calzaghe

He beat Pac twice with what?.. with weak ass counterpunching? Sorry but imo, fighters who are more aggreesive and inflect bigger damages gets my vote for the win.

Pac sent JMM 4 times to the canvas.

you call this weak. LOL !!!



as for my top 10

1.Floyd Mayweather Jr
2. Manny Pacquaio
3. Joe Calzaghe
4. Juan Manuel Marquez
5. Bernard Hopkins
6. Miguel Cotto
7. Izrael Vasquez
8. Kelly Pavlik
9. Wladimir Klitschko
10. Ricky Hatton

Compare that to the 4 knockdowns that JMM took from Pac?.. Hell yeah that's weak.




Correction! 5 knock downs...

[Julius Rain]

Mayweather
JMM (beat pac twice )
Pac
Cotto
Calzaghe

He beat Pac twice with what?.. with weak ass counterpunching? Sorry but imo, fighters who are more aggreesive and inflect bigger damages gets my vote for the win.

Pac sent JMM 4 times to the canvas.

you call this weak. LOL !!!



as for my top 10

1.Floyd Mayweather Jr
2. Manny Pacquaio
3. Joe Calzaghe
4. Juan Manuel Marquez
5. Bernard Hopkins
6. Miguel Cotto
7. Izrael Vasquez
8. Kelly Pavlik
9. Wladimir Klitschko
10. Ricky Hatton

yea that wasn't that hard pac was out of balance even jmm knew it thats why he didn't have any intensity to follow up.

You would of had a better point if you showed the body shot jmm caught pac with in round 8, now that would of sent other fighters in a crawl position. For example: oscar dela hoya would of been on the floor trying to gasp for air like a fish wearing fishnets