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well roy is my all time great..and the fighter that they mentioned ahead of him..i don't have a problem with..just so long as they don't put wack assed overrated Duran, Hearns, and Chavez ahead of him...

RJJ, TITO, SHANE, PBF, Holyfield are my top favs....
How can you continue to call Duran, Hearns and Chavez overrated. Have you actually watched significant portions of their career. I'm willing to listen to arguements about Chavez being overrated, he was great but still managed to be overrated. You always through out these jibes about them being "wack" or "overrated" but never back them up. Please explain to me why I should discredit fighters who most educated boxing fans consider to be among the greatest of all time.
okay my bad i didn't mean to call the hitman wack...sorry about that one...

but duran...he had 116 fights...only 23 of them were title fights...against the good to great competition of his era his record was 19-11....if you have a 116 career fights and only 23 of them are title fights..something's wrong..it means his record was severely padded....when he was 71-1....who cares that was a virtual who's who's of nobodies....cory spinks was 33-0 before he lost to judah.. you know why? because he padded his reocord in his hometown by beating bums just like duran...

i don't care that he moved up in weight...because if PBF gets KO'ed at 147..nobody will say it was because he moved up..or the fact rjj shouldn't have been fighting at LHW....

duran shouldn't have moved up if that was going to be the excuse for him losing..and the fact the SRL lost to him is actually a chink in SRL legacy IMO...
See I would agree with you if we looked at everyones career simply by their record. In that respect both Duran and Chavez would be wildly overrated. However, educated boxing fans know when someones career is padded, or when someones record is equally tarnished by carrying on that bit too long. What makes each fighters career considered so great is the great fights they fought, the feats they accomplished in important fights. Duran Leonard, Hagler Hearns, champions at mulitple weights. Our memories and what we're told about fighters are what make them great, not a bunch of numbers.