Greatest Heavyweight

[NUCLEAR BULL]

mind - ali
chin - chuvalo
hand speed - tyson
footwork - ali
stamina - marciano
punch power - shavers
money punch - fraziers left hook
heart - holyfield
longevity - joe louis ( no ones ever come near his time and defences as champ )

[El Kabong]

If I have to break it down...

Mental makeup: Joe Louis - he came to win every fight he had, he was the greatest champion, the toughest physically and mentally. If Joe put his mind to it he could have beaten ANYONE

Physical makeup: Prime George Foreman 6'4 220-230 - The most intimidating person you could ever set foot in the ring with. He was HUGE for that time but not so big to where he was clumsy and he was rugged.

Chin: George Chuvalo - He got KO'd before but he didn't get knocked down and he fought Frazier AND Foreman

Footwork: Riddick Bowe - everyone talks about Ali's footwork but with Ali he didn't sit on his punches and get the big power off of them and Riddick did! Riddick could stick and move and he could stalk someone down he was VERY athletic.

Hand Speed: Muhamed Ali - Ali could throw punches really quick when he wanted to and in bunches too.

Power: Vitali Klitschko - He doesn't really have that 1 shotgun blast type of power but he's KO'd all but 1 guy who he has beaten and he has stopped guys in late rounds. He accumulates punishment, can KO someone with a combination, AND he carries his power late into fights.

Jab: Wladimir Klitschko - It's basically a power punch when he throws it...I think it's more dominant than Larry Holmes' jab but maybe that's just me.

Right Cross: Joe Louis - He threw it quick, straight, was always in range AND it was devistating.

Left Hook: Joe Frazier - Come on, did anyone bar Tyson have a hook that came close to matching Joe's

Uppercut: (right) Lennox Lewis/ (left) Mike Tyson - Lennox had a longer uppercut and probably more powerful but Tyson's was faster and devistating as well.

Right Hook: George Foreman - when he threw it and landed it, it hurt everyone who watched it.

Overhand Right: Rocky Marciano's 'Suzy Q' - The one he landed on Joe Walcott might be the hardest anyone has EVER hit someone

[landmine950]

To Lyle re klitsckos jab vs Larry Holmes..
yes.....its just you....



But seriously.... both klits have good strong straight jabs due to thier style and excellent schooling. Tall strong and long armed.
BUT! Larrys jab was like a 2x4 coming at you end on. it really fuckin hurt. ( wil i be banned AGaiN for swearing?)

What about a punch breakdown ie best left hook right cross etc?

[CutMeMick]

To Lyle re klitsckos jab vs Larry Holmes..
yes.....its just you....



But seriously.... both klits have good strong straight jabs due to thier style and excellent schooling. Tall strong and long armed.
BUT! Larrys jab was like a 2x4 coming at you end on. it really fuckin hurt. ( wil i be banned AGaiN for swearing?)

What about a punch breakdown ie best left hook right cross etc?

landmines answer:

Nikolay Valuev

[TitoFan]

I see Oliver McCall listed a lot for "best chin." I'll admit to being a bit biased against McCall, especially after his nuclear meltdown against Lewis in their 2nd fight. To me he's a wasted talent, who caught a lucky break against a careless Lewis and had his 2 seconds of fame. The rematch was shameful, and everyone in attendance should've gotten their money back.

Best chin to me is Holyfield.