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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    I'm a registered Independent myself.... so you are wrong in assuming I "drink the Republican Kool-Aide" I'm not even a registered Republican.

    I know John McCain because I wanted him to win in 2000, I've followed his career for quite some time now and I know that he above everyone else in politics as a whole works with people regardless of their political party and he is solution oriented he wants to ACCOMPLISH something.


    I suppose Hillary and Obama know EVERYTHING about economics ....McCain is honest and he's telling America the same thing he told those people in Michigan "You've lost your jobs, they aren't going to come back, we have to create new jobs and you have to prepare yourselves to do them".

    Meanwhile Hillary and Obama have kissed so many asses their lips are chapped.


    PRESIDENTS DON'T HANDLE THE ECONOMY......ADVISORS HANDLE THE ECONOMY.

    Some Presidents get lucky and some Presidents have to scratch and claw their way to break even, them's the breaks buddy. Sure they can affect the market a little bit but hell so can companies like Enron or Google....the President has no control over those things so give it a rest about the economy...McCain was at least man enough to admit his shortcomings whereas Obama has no flaws

    If it wasn't for North Carolina Barack would have withered away into the background worse than Howard Dean in 2000. Barack is a face, he's a speaker, he's not a leader, he is an empty vessle in which liberals pour their hopes and dreams most of which I might add are slightly to overtly socialist.
    For a non-Republican you sure do a good impersonation of one Are there any Democrats you like? I'm just curious when you last voted for one of them. Believe it or not, I voted for Romney for governor and I think he did a pretty good job, before he started worrying more about trying to become President than running the state and puckering up the religious right.

    Listen, I told you already, I like McCain. I was praying for him to run against Bush as an independent in 2004. I'm not sure there has every been a candidate with whom I agreed on everything or voted for with some concerns over an issue or two. Like you said yourself, McCain had to kiss the ring and play to the base of the party. The base of the Republican party scares just as much, if not more, than the base of the Democrat party. Yes, advisers handle the economy, but presidents choose the advisers and at the end of the day, they make final decisions.

    Yeah companies can effect the economy as much as presidents, but the President can choose how much or how little to regulate. Republican EXECUTIVE refusal to properly monitor certain industries has played a direct role in Enron, the sub-prime crisis, and back in the day, the S & L bailout. I'm more comfortable with a President who understands that corporations need policing just like everybody else. I hope Mr. McCain agrees, but most of his party certainly doesn't.

    But that's secondary. I believe in personal freedom and the Constitution. I believe in a woman's right to choose, I believe in the separation of church and state. I believe corporate monopolies are dangerous and unconstitutional. I believe in habeas corpus, justification for search warrants, the right to view internet porn, and the release of non-violent drug offenders so we can stop wasting money and keep real criminals in jail without spending more of my tax dollars on prisons. I also agree with the right to carry guns (unlike Mrs. Clinton), but P4P on the issues regarding personal freedom, I prefer Clinton.

    But at the end of the day, Lyle, for whatever our different reasons, you and I will vote for the same guy if Obama gets the nod. Ain't American great?

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    For myself,This will be a 'turn and cough' voting year.I am In Independent and have voted Republican,Democrat and Libertarian.At a point in 2000 I was set to vote for McCain and felt he was Savaged by Bush and his operatives with the whisper/shout smears.For the record I believe Bush to be an absolute farce and dangerous,An Insult to the Military & exploits them and lives in a world of Catch phrases and simplistic quips.I do believe that the dye has been cast and Clinton needs to put the pride in the pocket and step aside so Obama and McCain can get down to hashing it all out.Obama better buckle up because he will get it from all fronts,I know very little about him but we will soon hear more than we cared to know i feel.I see this one getting ugly but do hope they sincerely focus on our pressing concerns......The Economy,My nephews and nieces paying off this immense bebt,This short sided/mis managed /non thought out War that will be with us for quite some time,regardless of who becomes our Commander in chief.

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