
Originally Posted by
Andre

Originally Posted by
pacfan
Astrology was mentioned several times on those links so let me give you my view on it. Ya, the stars, moons, planets, etc. moving about in some definite pattern in well-coordinated manner must have influence on everything around them. Or more accurately, since they are being moved by the same universal force that moves us also, their respective movements or positions may be used to forecast our position in life, figuratively, I mean. Since they are actually being moved by the same force or forces that affect or move everything else in this world, they must, naturally, have some relation (but not necessarily effects as Astrologers believe) to every other things. But the problem with Astrology is that they use primarily the macro data to make forecast at the micro level, which is vastly complicated and has vastly more factors that influence them. I think the planetary motions and positions has a more general effects than specific ones. At the human level, Astrologers should look for more immediate or micro factors to more accurately forecast where individual lives will likely to go. But then, going into the terrestial level may not be within their scope or territory. And knowing the exact time and place of birth is not enough either - there are countless other micro factors that affects human lives. That's the reason that those daily Astrological forecasts hardly go right. Simply put, they are just too simplistic. In Economics, they never use macro data to determine our individual (micro) economic conditions.
The moon effects water dramatically and we as humans are made of 90 something % water. The Police know all about full moons and its mass effects some man up for it if it falls on a weekend.
Imagine the effects on some when a massive planet comes closer,it all adds up, even physically.
Ya, you are absolutely right there, but I think planets affects us more in a general sort of way then in a specific manner 'coz if it were specific we'll probably more or less be doing the same sort of things. By general I mean something that affects all or most of us together in some way or ways. Like for example, world wars, Hiroshima, 911. And the
tippecanoe thing, since it occurs at long intervals and basically involves the US, perhaps had lesser influence from the planets. The specific ones I mentioned are like, someone's birth, marriages and all other events that only affect specific persons - these I think have only little planetary influence as, again, if planets significantly affected every small details of human lives, we'd all be acting more or less in the same way. This world is influenced by many factors, of course including the planetary gravities, but more so at the individual level where there are countless factors that influence us. The two of the most important factors at the specific level I believe are the
territorial factors and the
personal factors, which are confluence of factors within an area and personal relationships. Actually, I've got it all figured out in one neat theory but since it wouldn't pass scientific scrutiny (though I don't believe in scientific system entirely), I'll just call it a
hypothesis. But it will take couple of books to discuss them fully so I can't go into it all here.
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