I conceed.

[El Kabong]

So we should all become communist miners Is that Obama's plan for changing America


Well in knowing all this why don't you organize a strike or something to create safer mines and mining practices?

[Trainer Monkey]

So we should all become communist miners Is that Obama's plan for changing America


Well in knowing all this why don't you organize a strike or something to create safer mines and mining practices?

We're allready taking steps here
But change doesnt happen overnight,Im betting Massey has better lobbyists then the Union
I mean if you can even find a union mine anymore

[Youngblood]

I spelled concede wrong. D'oh. I'm a dumbass.

I concede.

carry on...

[El Kabong]

We're allready taking steps here
But change doesnt happen overnight,Im betting Massey has better lobbyists then the Union
I mean if you can even find a union mine anymore

Go to the Department of Labor then.


Odd how we went from Hillary dropping out of the race to Bill to talking about miners(minors) hahahaha......oh Bill Clinton you've given us so much to laugh at you about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEF8LvsqYh4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRu49lTdOQA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMnxZmCSIy4

[Trainer Monkey]

We're allready taking steps here
But change doesnt happen overnight,Im betting Massey has better lobbyists then the Union
I mean if you can even find a union mine anymore

Go to the Department of Labor then.


Odd how we went from Hillary dropping out of the race to Bill to talking about miners(minors) hahahaha......oh Bill Clinton you've given us so much to laugh at you about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEF8LvsqYh4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRu49lTdOQA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMnxZmCSIy4

You mean like all the good they did in 73 when strikebreakers opened up on the union line in Kentucky with a machine gun?
And Lord knows the unions are so much more protected now,by which I mean a lot less
Learn your history son

[El Kabong]

...TM are you a miner or do you come from a family of miners or something?


I don't like Unions anyway

[boozeboxer]

...TM are you a miner or do you come from a family of miners or something?


I don't like Unions anyway

Lyle, the Unions created holidays, weekends, and essentially the middle class in America. Unions have been very good to this country and have done okay despite many efforts to kill them (notably Reagan).

Unions often strike over unsafe work conditions that companies could not "afford" to implement. The bottom line is that mining companies are like most companies. Greedy. They will endanger workers gravely if it would help the bottom line. Unions were created because enough was enough. The workers were overworked (to the detriment of their safety), underpaid, and laid off at the very convenience of the employer. However people of like trades started to ban together and demand at least some of the benefits from their toils. They became a voice together, because singled out, workers were fired and unemployed or shot and killed.


Wal-mart fights unions very hard, because they know they aren't pulling their weight. They know they undercompensate their workers. They know that they are draining the US economy because the workers have to submit to government welfare. So they keep pushing anti-union propaganda, very strongly. Saying they will close up shop in any town that creates a union. And that the workers shouldn't need a union because they always have a voice in the company. Yeah. right. Not suprisingly, Wal-mart is big in pushing for welfare type subsidies, because the workers would be unable to keep working for them at shit wages without it.

I find it ironic that unions are to blame because the US cannot compete with foreign auto manufacturers and other trades and we need free trade! Yet, these are the very same people who will not allow the importation of CHEAP ethanol from Brazil. Everyone wants it both ways. They want to spout capitalism and then mercanitilism when it suits. In short we have let a greedy corporate monster, the almighty dollar manipulate a nation. (Side note--ADM will take a huge toll on the American people with its manipulation of ethanol and other energy concerns in the very near future.)

[Kirkland Laing]

When you manage to make a substantive point I'll reply.

[Trainer Monkey]

...TM are you a miner or do you come from a family of miners or something?


I don't like Unions anyway

This entire state runs on the mines,and if you dont like a union here,you dont like life either,because otherwise your a dead man walking