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    Default Re: HOlyfield v. TOney

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Tell us more about what he said afterwards?

    That was Toney in awesome form and had he carried that to his heavyweight fights he would have beaten Peters and Rahman. Shame.

    It wasnt so much what he said .It was the way he acted . He was arrogantly shouting his mouth off as if he'd beaten a prime Evander or summat . Then he started swearing and grabbed the mic off the announcer and threw it on the floor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Tell us more about what he said afterwards?

    That was Toney in awesome form and had he carried that to his heavyweight fights he would have beaten Peters and Rahman. Shame.

    It wasnt so much wahat he said .It was the way he acted . He was arrogantly shouting his mouth off as if he'd beaten a prime Evander or summat . Then he satrted swearing and grabbed the mic off the announcer and threw it on the floor.

    I think it was roid rage. He was very respectful to Holyfield though. Just lost it on the announcer. He was definitely juicing.....

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    For some reason he became angry with Jim Gray during the interview and slapped the mic out of his hand and walked off: which is bazaar behavior for a fighter who just won a fight.

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    Toney was sick of Jim Gray disrespecting fighters so he refused to do the interview and slapped the mic out of his hand. I thought it was hilarious.

    True it was a washed up Holyfield, but still a tough Holyfield, and I thought it was a fantastic performance by James. His defense was spectacular. There was one part of the fight where James slipped a punch, stuck his tongue out at Holyfield while Evander was in the middle of throwing a jab, and then slipped that jab. It was fantastic stuff.

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    Toney at his best was a joy to watch especially in this fight and against Barkley, Jirov, Nunn, Toney was one hell of a tough cookie with that famous shoulder roll and it was beautiful to watch him roll with the punches and counter when he was at his best. But he was lazy and he sometimes struggled against fighters that he should of ate for breakfast, Dave Tiberi comes to mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    But he was lazy and he sometimes struggled against fighters that he should of ate for breakfast, Dave Tiberi comes to mind.

    Toney is probably my all time fav, but yeah he looked TERRIBLE in that fight and got an absolute GIFT of a decision. He lost that fight, that was the worst conditioned I've ever seen him.

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    There was another fight in which a fighter starved himself to make weight and had absolutely nothing for the fight. Tiberi won that fight.

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    I thought he did not disrespect Holyfield. He did say that he was going to KO Holyfield and everyone thought he was crazy but those body shots were vicious and they played a big part in stopping Holyfield.

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    Holyfield was wayyyy past his prime in that fight. Holyfield was completely exhausted when he went down. I like Toney but he wouldn't have been able to hold a candle to a prime Evander.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rene69 View Post
    Holyfield was wayyyy past his prime in that fight. Holyfield was completely exhausted when he went down. I like Toney but he wouldn't have been able to hold a candle to a prime Evander.
    The Toney that fought Jirov at Cruiserweight vs Prime Holyfield at Cruiserweight would have been one not to miss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rene69 View Post
    Holyfield was wayyyy past his prime in that fight. Holyfield was completely exhausted when he went down. I like Toney but he wouldn't have been able to hold a candle to a prime Evander.
    The Toney that fought Jirov at Cruiserweight vs Prime Holyfield at Cruiserweight would have been one not to miss.

    I agree with you on that. But Holyfield would have been to much for Toney in a great fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    The Toney that fought Jirov at Cruiserweight vs Prime Holyfield at Cruiserweight would have been one not to miss.
    Absolutely. I've always said that if Toney had just spent the majority of his career at cruiserwieight, he could have gone down as one of the greatest cruisers ever.

    Instead he spent the early part of his career starving himself down to 160/168/175, and then spent his later years as a fat out-of-shape heavyweight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rene69 View Post
    Holyfield was wayyyy past his prime in that fight. Holyfield was completely exhausted when he went down. I like Toney but he wouldn't have been able to hold a candle to a prime Evander.
    The Toney that fought Jirov at Cruiserweight vs Prime Holyfield at Cruiserweight would have been one not to miss.

    Good fight yeah but when you compare A cruiser Holyfield to a cruiser Toney , theres no competition . Evander owns him just as he owns any cruiser in history . Of that I am certain .

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    Holyfield was way past his prime but it was still a solid performance, that was the weight Toney should have been at heavy, about 215-220, he could bounce on his toes and all of that. And Holy was past his prime but he'd at least been reasonably competitive in his last fight before that against Byrd.

    Toney acted a little crazy after the fight but I remember watching that fight again on a download with British announcers and thought they made a bit much out of it. For one he was very respectful towards Holyfield which is the most important thing. And I can't get too outraged about knocking the microphone out of Jim Gray's hands, annoying prick.

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    Default Re: HOlyfield v. TOney

    Quote Originally Posted by rene69 View Post
    Holyfield was wayyyy past his prime in that fight. Holyfield was completely exhausted when he went down. I like Toney but he wouldn't have been able to hold a candle to a prime Evander.

    Hoyfield didn't go down, it was stopped. He was getting hit with everything Toney threw and they stopped it.

    At heavyweight no way, cruiser would have been an all time classic fight. I would lean towards Holyfield, cause I think he is stronger, but what a great fight.

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