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    Default Re: WBA, WBC, IBF, etc

    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
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    So, then would you also say that Ricky Hatton has never reached the top of the Junior Welter Weight division, as in your opinion, he has not reached the "pinnacle?"

    its all politics though isnt it!!

    Hatton was 43-0 at Light welter and yet only ever held the IBO and IBF versions of the titles despite fighting the best there was to offer every single time.

    Wlad Klitschko is universally considered the world heavyweight champ yet sam peter owns the WBC version.

    If the various organisations do come to their senses eventually and decide to work in unison to unify every division these discussions will never be had.

    But that wont happen in my lifetime and i very much suspect in the coming years the P4P world champion will own nothing more than an IBO or WBA championship!!


    The IBO.....You can get your own....They give them away with ringside seats at any bout that has their sancion on
    They just hand 'em like souvenirs or party gifts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft View Post
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    its all politics though isnt it!!

    Hatton was 43-0 at Light welter and yet only ever held the IBO and IBF versions of the titles despite fighting the best there was to offer every single time.

    Wlad Klitschko is universally considered the world heavyweight champ yet sam peter owns the WBC version.

    If the various organisations do come to their senses eventually and decide to work in unison to unify every division these discussions will never be had.

    But that wont happen in my lifetime and i very much suspect in the coming years the P4P world champion will own nothing more than an IBO or WBA championship!!


    The IBO.....You can get your own....They give them away with ringside seats at any bout that has their sancion on
    They just hand 'em like souvenirs or party gifts.

    I am serious mate....Think about it...How many actual IBO fight cards can you think of?....How many where the title was the main event prize so to speak?...Other then seeing a champion who somehow just ends up withn the title as part of his collection can your really name any IBO title fights off the top of your head?....Its crazy.....I liken the title to that guy who seems to be at all the party's you attend eating food, drinking up the free booze yet no one knows who the hell he is....You know his face because he is always around but other then that nothing....Crazy
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
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    The IBO.....You can get your own....They give them away with ringside seats at any bout that has their sancion on
    They just hand 'em like souvenirs or party gifts.

    I am serious mate....Think about it...How many actual IBO fight cards can you think of?....How many where the title was the main event prize so to speak?...Other then seeing a champion who somehow just ends up withn the title as part of his collection can your really name any IBO title fights off the top of your head?....Its crazy.....I liken the title to that guy who seems to be at all the party's you attend eating food, drinking up the free booze yet no one knows who the hell he is....You know his face because he is always around but other then that nothing....Crazy
    Hopkins - tarver

    Hatton - Castillo..

    I think they were both IBO title fights werent they? Lol Although they were both about a bit more then a title really.. that was just matchmaking.. plus technically the ibo title that say hopkins won from tarver or that hatton kept at 140.. were the lineal titles

    Thing is i bet in some small city shows if you think about it there will be ibo titles at stake in main events.. S'kinda just like the same profile as usba or nabf or a state title.. Prob considered a bit bigger but sure why not..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tito BHB View Post
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    They just hand 'em like souvenirs or party gifts.

    I am serious mate....Think about it...How many actual IBO fight cards can you think of?....How many where the title was the main event prize so to speak?...Other then seeing a champion who somehow just ends up withn the title as part of his collection can your really name any IBO title fights off the top of your head?....Its crazy.....I liken the title to that guy who seems to be at all the party's you attend eating food, drinking up the free booze yet no one knows who the hell he is....You know his face because he is always around but other then that nothing....Crazy
    Hopkins - tarver

    Hatton - Castillo..

    I think they were both IBO title fights werent they? Lol Although they were both about a bit more then a title really.. that was just matchmaking.. plus technically the ibo title that say hopkins won from tarver or that hatton kept at 140.. were the lineal titles

    Thing is i bet in some small city shows if you think about it there will be ibo titles at stake in main events.. S'kinda just like the same profile as usba or nabf or a state title.. Prob considered a bit bigger but sure why not..
    LOL once again though...The IBO title went with the Ring Title Tarver had....He got the IBO title in his bout with Jones, No one can name where Jones picked up the title, and like I mentioned earlier why is it Tarver lost all the other belts but kept that one....You can never tell where it came from and you can never lose it....

    Though Lennox Lewis held te belt as well for a long long time...Wlad has the belt at HW...someow they have Tarver as their LHW champion....(Thought he lost that to Hopkins?)...Tyen whole thing gives me a headache
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    Default Re: WBA, WBC, IBF, etc

    I dont know about recentley,But I remember The USBA and NABF 'minor' belts had some decent level Matches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lance Uppercut View Post

    So, then would you also say that Ricky Hatton has never reached the top of the Junior Welter Weight division, as in your opinion, he has not reached the "pinnacle?"

    its all politics though isnt it!!

    Hatton was 43-0 at Light welter and yet only ever held the IBO and IBF versions of the titles despite fighting the best there was to offer every single time.

    Wlad Klitschko is universally considered the world heavyweight champ yet sam peter owns the WBC version.

    If the various organisations do come to their senses eventually and decide to work in unison to unify every division these discussions will never be had.

    But that wont happen in my lifetime and i very much suspect in the coming years the P4P world champion will own nothing more than an IBO or WBA championship!!


    The IBO.....You can get your own....They give them away with ringside seats at any bout that has their sancion on
    The IBo was trying to award the seemingly linear champions. The ring is quite fond of them
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    Default Re: WBA, WBC, IBF, etc

    What about the the IBA and the WBU?

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    Default Re: WBA, WBC, IBF, etc

    WBC Fedalatin title is first WBC fecarbox second then you got Oklahoma state champion. Those are the big 3 to me.....In all seriousness I think IBF is pretty consistent with their rankings, sometimes they will throw a weird mandatory, but they are usually guys that deserve it, but just aren't known as much.

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    The Ring championship is the only championship worth recognizing!
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    Default Re: WBA, WBC, IBF, etc

    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post



    The IBO.....You can get your own....They give them away with ringside seats at any bout that has their sancion on
    They just hand 'em like souvenirs or party gifts.

    I am serious mate....Think about it...How many actual IBO fight cards can you think of?....How many where the title was the main event prize so to speak?...Other then seeing a champion who somehow just ends up withn the title as part of his collection can your really name any IBO title fights off the top of your head?....Its crazy.....I liken the title to that guy who seems to be at all the party's you attend eating food, drinking up the free booze yet no one knows who the hell he is....You know his face because he is always around but other then that nothing....Crazy
    I like the fact that the IBO Middleweight Champion, Daniel Geale, is ranked as no. 21 by the IBO themselves. At least that's not particularly pretentious...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post



    The IBO.....You can get your own....They give them away with ringside seats at any bout that has their sancion on
    They just hand 'em like souvenirs or party gifts.

    I am serious mate....Think about it...How many actual IBO fight cards can you think of?....How many where the title was the main event prize so to speak?...Other then seeing a champion who somehow just ends up withn the title as part of his collection can your really name any IBO title fights off the top of your head?....Its crazy.....I liken the title to that guy who seems to be at all the party's you attend eating food, drinking up the free booze yet no one knows who the hell he is....You know his face because he is always around but other then that nothing....Crazy

    Im agreeing with you completely, the version of the belt is nothing more than a farce and had boxing any credibility that wasnt sucked out of it through don king and his henchmen it would scrap all versions of your ibo, ibf, wbu championships and go back to the old traditional system whereby a champion was really a champion.

    People didnt book up hatton-castillo on ppv because the IBO championship was at stake, people ordered it because they recognised it was to decide who was the number 1 light welterweight in the world.

    Should that mean hattons IBO title made his involvement in the fight null and void substituting him for junior witter just because junior had a more respected belt??

    of course not..most knowlegable boxing fans are able to decide for themselves what fights are worthy of big viewing figures etc through how good the athletes competing are and not what organisations title they hold!!

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