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    Default Re: Hatton struggling with a virus fight goes on!

    Ricky gets a cold or flu before every fight.

    Why?

    Because he allows himself to baloon out of shape, kills himself in training and weakens his immune system.
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    Default Re: Hatton struggling with a virus fight goes on!

    "Doesn't keep him self in shape and IMO you are shitting on you're own fans by doing that."



    How exactly

    Why on gods earth should it matter just one bit whether ricky puts on weight outside of the ring??

    Joe calzaghe is known to shoot up 200 odd pounds between fights and nobody says a word about that - hatton is a naturally big lad who fights at 140 because it suits him not because he has to.

    So the man likes a drink every other day - so does about 95% of the british population.

    Ricky knows with what he has to go through between fights that he only has another 2-3 years in the profesional game. When the time comes that hatton cant make a weight then i`ll criticise.

    Until then though and argument over what he does is neither ethically or morally correct

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    Default Re: Hatton struggling with a virus fight goes on!

    Hatton said after struggling with Vilches and Urangotang that he would not go through with a fight if he was ill, just goes to show how much of a sham this 'fight' is.

    Witter should come out and say that he was sick. Watch the Hatton faithfull bite their lips until Hatton gets by Lazcano before taking a shot at him.
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    Default Re: Hatton struggling with a virus fight goes on!

    Thank god (imaginary) it's not being called off

    So.. should he have a dodgy night that "illness" wont be blamed
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    Default Re: Hatton struggling with a virus fight goes on!

    At one point Lazcano was a better fighter than Hatton. Hatton grew rather fast and Juan fell rather fast after a brutal Castillo fight.


    I expect this to be a more than competitive fight than everyone percieves.

    Hatton isn't what we thought of him, and Lazcano may have enough left in the tank to win. Probably not, but he certainly has the chin to withstand a hatton left.

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    Default Re: Hatton struggling with a virus fight goes on!

    Come on Laczano!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    Ricky gets a cold or flu before every fight.

    Why?

    Because he allows himself to baloon out of shape, kills himself in training and weakens his immune system.
    You beat me to it the best post on this topic so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    Ricky gets a cold or flu before every fight.

    Why?

    Because he allows himself to baloon out of shape, kills himself in training and weakens his immune system.
    You beat me to it the best post on this topic so far.
    Thank you, appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    Ricky gets a cold or flu before every fight.

    Why?

    Because he allows himself to baloon out of shape, kills himself in training and weakens his immune system.
    You beat me to it the best post on this topic so far.
    The only way his immune system would be weak is if he had severley over-trained. If he had severley over-trained for every fight, his in the ring perfromance would be absolutely awful everytime he fought. This obviously isn't the case.

    I know his lifestyle isn't ideal but to say thats the reason he gets cold or flu isn't very factual.

    I also find it hard to believe that Kerry Kayes would allow him to over-train.

    I can only think of two recent occassions where he has been ill before a fight. Against Urango and now.

    When you consider that his training camp is 12 weeks long and he has 2 fights per year, this equals 24 weeks of training. 24 weeks without a cold would be pretty exceptional (or lucky) by anyone's standards.

    When you consider that the average person has between 3-4 colds per year, it's very hard to prove that his lifestyle has anything to do with him catching Colds.

    Interestingly the most common time to catch a cold is between September and May. He fought Urango in January and the Lazcano illness will most likely have started in late April.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    Ricky gets a cold or flu before every fight.

    Why?

    Because he allows himself to baloon out of shape, kills himself in training and weakens his immune system.
    You beat me to it the best post on this topic so far.
    The only way his immune system would be weak is if he had severley over-trained. If he had severley over-trained for every fight, his in the ring perfromance would be absolutely awful everytime he fought. This obviously isn't the case.

    I know his lifestyle isn't ideal but to say thats the reason he gets cold or flu isn't very factual.

    I also find it hard to believe that Kerry Kayes would allow him to over-train.

    I can only think of two recent occassions where he has been ill before a fight. Against Urango and now.

    When you consider that his training camp is 12 weeks long and he has 2 fights per year, this equals 24 weeks of training. 24 weeks without a cold would be pretty exceptional (or lucky) by anyone's standards.

    When you consider that the average person has between 3-4 colds per year, it's very hard to prove that his lifestyle has anything to do with him catching Colds.

    Interestingly the most common time to catch a cold is between September and May. He fought Urango in January and the Lazcano illness will most likely have started in late April.
    He sheds a minimum of 26 pounds coming into every fight and has to dehydrate himself before every weigh in. It may not be over training, but it would have a similar effect.
    You can see how gaunt he is at every weigh in.

    And I actually feel he hasn't performed to his optimum since the Tszyu fight
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    Default Re: Hatton struggling with a virus fight goes on!

    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post

    You beat me to it the best post on this topic so far.
    The only way his immune system would be weak is if he had severley over-trained. If he had severley over-trained for every fight, his in the ring perfromance would be absolutely awful everytime he fought. This obviously isn't the case.

    I know his lifestyle isn't ideal but to say thats the reason he gets cold or flu isn't very factual.

    I also find it hard to believe that Kerry Kayes would allow him to over-train.

    I can only think of two recent occassions where he has been ill before a fight. Against Urango and now.

    When you consider that his training camp is 12 weeks long and he has 2 fights per year, this equals 24 weeks of training. 24 weeks without a cold would be pretty exceptional (or lucky) by anyone's standards.

    When you consider that the average person has between 3-4 colds per year, it's very hard to prove that his lifestyle has anything to do with him catching Colds.

    Interestingly the most common time to catch a cold is between September and May. He fought Urango in January and the Lazcano illness will most likely have started in late April.
    He sheds a minimum of 26 pounds coming into every fight and has to dehydrate himself before every weigh in. It may not be over training, but it would have a similar effect.
    You can see how gaunt he is at every weigh in.

    And I actually feel he hasn't performed to his optimum since the Tszyu fight
    26lbs over 12 weeks isn't a great deal. You could lose 12lbs through dieting alone. So basically all he would need to do would be burn an extra 500 cals per day as well as eating 500 less. I'm pretty sure Joe Calzaghe goes through much much worse. Especially with dehydrating himself.

    Being dehydrated would also lower his punch resistance and there isn't any evidence to suggest that that has gone.

    I agree with your last point but i feel that has more to do with the step up in class and a major change in his own tactics. Technically he has gone backwards imo.

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    Default Re: Hatton struggling with a virus fight goes on!

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    Ricky gets a cold or flu before every fight.

    Why?

    Because he allows himself to baloon out of shape, kills himself in training and weakens his immune system.
    You beat me to it the best post on this topic so far.
    Yeah good post; short and right to the heart of the matter. Donny said in another post Hatton trains as hard as anyone in camp: well he has to considering his lifestyle.

    It's just like overweight people who go from one diet to the next, back and forth, lose weight gain weight. Very hard on the body. A consistent lifestyle is much healthier, especially in the long run when Ricky retires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LEGION View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    Ricky gets a cold or flu before every fight.

    Why?

    Because he allows himself to baloon out of shape, kills himself in training and weakens his immune system.
    You beat me to it the best post on this topic so far.
    Yeah good post; short and right to the heart of the matter. Donny said in another post Hatton trains as hard as anyone in camp: well he has to considering his lifestyle.

    It's just like overweight people who go from one diet to the next, back and forth, lose weight gain weight. Very hard on the body. A consistent lifestyle is much healthier, especially in the long run when Ricky retires.
    Thanks Legion appreciated.

    The fact is a fighter has to train for dual purposes.
    1) To develop his skills, fitness and stamina.
    2) To make weight.

    If a fighter maintains his weight between fights, stays in good shape and allows himself effective rest he will be able to return for his next training camp, with less weight worries and more time for training his skills, stamina etc.
    I don't feel that it is coincidental that we have seen Hatton baloon between fights and then employ a basic plan in all his fights and seemingly running low on his once endless supply of stamina.

    Ricky has already suffered because of his lifestyle.
    However, he did not blow up much after Mayweather I have to admit.
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    Default Re: Hatton struggling with a virus fight goes on!

    To touch on what Donny said. I believe if he did stay in better shape, it would allow him to spend much more time refining his skills.

    To be fair to him, he has only lost once in 44 fights and that was to Mayweather. Even being in fantastic year round condition wouldn't have made any difference to his record imo. Talent beat him. Not his lifestyle.

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