State of Boxing 2008

[Violent Demise]

Hater

[leftylee]

I'm only giving you positive rep coz you took the time typing that up and your hating on Floyd, I like that.

[amat]

I agree OumaFan, Pacquiao beating Diaz really shouldn't mean anything. Diaz is about as middle of the road champion as you are ever going to get in boxing and he's never once impressed me. I think fighting Diaz is a waste of time I hate that fight just because there are so many better ones out there and Pac fans are making it out to be something special. I saw someone list that as a dream fight and I nearly threw up in my mouth. I couldn't be less interested in that one.

I don't see what the big deal is about Mayweather waiting a bit. First off, Cotto-Margarito is a better action fight then Floyd-Cotto/Margarito ever would be imo. And I still believe that Cotto-Mayweather will happen it's not like Mayweather-De La Hoya II prevents that.

[OumaFan]

Definitely I'm no Mayweather super fan and have criticized him a lot but if you think Pacquaio should be moved ahead of him in the P4P because he beat David Diaz while Floyd only beat ODLH then I have to think you are either a really big Pac fan or you really hate Floyd or both.

Or you're a really big David Diaz fan

[The Wind]

I’m not hating on Floyd Mayweather Jnr, no way! (sorry to disappoint some of you). I wouldn't say I'm a Pac Fan in the sense I'm baised, yes I do like to watch Pacquiao but my opinion I'd like to think is not biased. (I'm not a fan of Diaz just for the record)

I’m in a fortunate position where my favourite fighter/boxer is in retirement. Although when we approach a fight, as the fight draws closer I will begin to lean towards one particular fighter.

Take for example Cotto v Margarito I like both and I have followed both very closely and I respect and appreciate both equally but as the fight draws closer I’m starting to lean towards Margarito as who I would like to win. Who do I think will win? I haven’t got a clue, it’s so tight, I could make good cases for both.

My theory is that Margarito could beat Cotto and Mayweather could beat Margarito and Cotto could beat Mayweather – styles make fights!

I’m just frustrated that people are getting sucked in, I don’t want boxing to become primarily a business, (some will suggest it already was and is).It’s a sport in which you want to be the best.

Can anyone in their right mind tell me that Cotto v Mayweather Jnr is not a worthy match up? Allthough I agree in terms of which will be the better fight to watch, most certianly Cotto v Margarito is the one - I really can't wait.

I suppose out of sheer frustration I’ve gotten a little carried away with my Pound for Pound comment but I hope you can see my point. I should have been more clear, in no way do I suggest beating Diaz is a good acomplishment, it would be average. I'm kind of saying whilst Barrera and Morales are no longer in their primes or even when Pacquiao fought them, the manner in which he beat them is a greater achievement (combined) then the De La Hoya v Mayweather fight in my opinion.

Let’s say in the next 18 months - 2 years Mayweather beats De La Hoya again and then beats a Contender type of fighter and Pacquiao goes on to beat Diaz and then unify the Lightweight division does he then deserve to be top P4P or does he then need to win a Light Welter title or is that still not enough?

The main difference between these two is that one will fight anybody to prove he’s the best and the other won’t or hasn’t so far.

I appreciate the above comment is probably not a criteria when determining the P4P list, but maybe it should be, I don’t know. I guess I’m just letting of steam.

I have no doubts that Mayweather will fight Cotto and/or Margarito, who he fights first will depend on the winner, but let’s say for instance that he doesn’t fight, if not both certainly one of these two, before he retires, then Mayweather Jnr will most definitely feel the wrath of The Wind!

That’s not hating on Mayweather but simply pointing out the reality, or am I missing something?

[OumaFan]

What I was saying is that if you had Floyd number 1 right now and Pac number 2 then I don't see why that would change if Floyd beats ODLH and Pac beats Diaz cause beating ODLH is clearly a much greater accomplishment than Pac beating Diaz.

Whether you think Pac should be number one right now just based on overall achievements is up to you, I wouldn't agree but that's up to you.

[HattonTheHammer]

Khan-pacman will never happen for so many different reasons

the time scale being most important of all.

By the time amir establishes himself as a world beating lightweight, pac will be down the home straight of his career fighting the potential superfights like hatton, casamayor, diaz.

As for the whole de la hoya bashing, cotto loving theme.

Its been said on here 99,000 times and im actually beggining to feel a bit sorry for poor old fishnets!!

[Macho]

Hey Wind , i will Rep you because you made a good read with sense , i liked it.....