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    Default Re: How did Tyson even survive...

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
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    I think at that point in time Larry Holmes fighting Foreman wouldn't have been that big of a deal. I mean people would have watched but it would be like watching Riddick Bowe fight someone now. In the late 80's early 90's Larry wasn't a force to be reckoned with.

    Of course Foreman didn't want to fight Lennox, can you blame him Lennox was bigger, stronger, faster, and he could move better. Foreman would always have a puncher's chance vs anyone but it would have been way too risky to fight Lewis at that point in his career.



    For Tyson, he had to have the intimidation factor working for him...if anyone fought back things got a little shakey. Tyson took big shots from Bruno and Rudduck. He came back to win because those guys were not keeping the pressure on or fighting smart, those guys always ended up fighting Tyson's fight....if we're talking Tyson-Foreman then George is one of the few I would trust to stand and trade with Tyson and come out on top.
    Thats actually where your wrong Lyle Holmes was a force in the early 90's, Holmes beat Ray Mercer, almost beat prime Holyfield i had it 7-5 for Holyfield. And he should of beat Oliver McCall and that would of made him 2nd oldest Heavyweight champion in history. And the public did want to see Holmes vs Foreman it was a well talked about fight, but Foreman didn't want the fight. Im not saying Foreman ducked Holmes but he didn't want the fight for whatever reason.
    I remember all of that hoopla,Almost a circus atomshere with the Holmes/Foreman talk.Holmes was calling him out every chance he got $$$$.They were both different Fighters in come backs with Foreman finding great mental balance and a jab = to a right hand Lol.Oddly Alex Stewart busted him up jabbing and nice power shots,Stubby Bigfoot Martin gave him problems but The way he would use his big paws to reach out and position guys,move them around was something.But somewhat a plodder and almost TOO relaxed at times.Holmes retained a zip jab,Acurate and would look to throw a fast right cross.He shuffled around alot...would pose and feet got crossed at times.More of a showman,talking to the cameras and frustrating to watch.Agree a bit on McCall fight....somewhat close,I had McCall by a few.But I do think he got a gift Against Quinn Navarre,Quinn actually outjabbed Holmes and hurt him at times.Mercer stunned him bad with a jab,& Jesse fergussan Had him rocked badly a couple of times if my memorie is sound Hey....I would have watched Foreman Vs. Holmes in a comeback bout but I lean towards Foreman.

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    Default Re: How did Tyson even survive...

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    I think at that point in time Larry Holmes fighting Foreman wouldn't have been that big of a deal. I mean people would have watched but it would be like watching Riddick Bowe fight someone now. In the late 80's early 90's Larry wasn't a force to be reckoned with.

    Of course Foreman didn't want to fight Lennox, can you blame him Lennox was bigger, stronger, faster, and he could move better. Foreman would always have a puncher's chance vs anyone but it would have been way too risky to fight Lewis at that point in his career.



    For Tyson, he had to have the intimidation factor working for him...if anyone fought back things got a little shakey. Tyson took big shots from Bruno and Rudduck. He came back to win because those guys were not keeping the pressure on or fighting smart, those guys always ended up fighting Tyson's fight....if we're talking Tyson-Foreman then George is one of the few I would trust to stand and trade with Tyson and come out on top.
    Thats actually where your wrong Lyle Holmes was a force in the early 90's, Holmes beat Ray Mercer, almost beat prime Holyfield i had it 7-5 for Holyfield. And he should of beat Oliver McCall and that would of made him 2nd oldest Heavyweight champion in history. And the public did want to see Holmes vs Foreman it was a well talked about fight, but Foreman didn't want the fight. Im not saying Foreman ducked Holmes but he didn't want the fight for whatever reason.
    I remember all of that hoopla,Almost a circus atomshere with the Holmes/Foreman talk.Holmes was calling him out every chance he got $$$$.They were both different Fighters in come backs with Foreman finding great mental balance and a jab = to a right hand Lol.Oddly Alex Stewart busted him up jabbing and nice power shots,Stubby Bigfoot Martin gave him problems but The way he would use his big paws to reach out and position guys,move them around was something.But somewhat a plodder and almost TOO relaxed at times.Holmes retained a zip jab,Acurate and would look to throw a fast right cross.He shuffled around alot...would pose and feet got crossed at times.More of a showman,talking to the cameras and frustrating to watch.Agree a bit on McCall fight....somewhat close,I had McCall by a few.But I do think he got a gift Against Quinn Navarre,Quinn actually outjabbed Holmes and hurt him at times.Mercer stunned him bad with a jab,& Jesse fergussan Had him rocked badly a couple of times if my memorie is sound Hey....I would have watched Foreman Vs. Holmes in a comeback bout but I lean towards Foreman.
    Holmes would have been a very tough match for George. He had the reach and jab to give him fits. Just like I think George would be a bad matchup for Tyson, Holmes would be a bad matchup for George. Foreman was probably right to avoid that fight because loosing to an old Larry Holmes would have looked bad.

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