State of Boxing 2008

[HattonTheHammer]

Khan-pacman will never happen for so many different reasons

the time scale being most important of all.

By the time amir establishes himself as a world beating lightweight, pac will be down the home straight of his career fighting the potential superfights like hatton, casamayor, diaz.

As for the whole de la hoya bashing, cotto loving theme.

Its been said on here 99,000 times and im actually beggining to feel a bit sorry for poor old fishnets!!

[boozeboxer]

Khan-pacman will never happen for so many different reasons

the time scale being most important of all.

By the time amir establishes himself as a world beating lightweight, pac will be down the home straight of his career fighting the potential superfights like hatton, casamayor, diaz.

As for the whole de la hoya bashing, cotto loving theme.

Its been said on here 99,000 times and im actually beggining to feel a bit sorry for poor old fishnets!!

Khan-Pac won't happen because the death penalty is not used in the UK.

[The Wind]

I never made a big deal about this fight, I just watched on the sidelines while I read and heard various posts.

So when Pacquiao beat Diaz 'very convicingly' I just thought now I'm sure Pacquiao is the BEST Pound 4 Pound fighter at the moment, INCLUDING Mayweather.

I love hearing some saying how Diaz is not a big challenge and even how some said Daiz is gonna give Manny sone real problems.

All I say is Manny Pacquiao done the Job!

He was real good the best in the world at the moment.

[OumaFan]

I never made a big deal about this fight, I just watched on the sidelines while I read and heard various posts.

So when Pacquiao beat Diaz 'very convicingly' I just thought now I'm sure Pacquiao is the BEST Pound 4 Pound fighter at the moment, INCLUDING Mayweather.

I love hearing some saying how Diaz is not a big challenge and even how some said Daiz is gonna give Manny sone real problems.

All I say is Manny Pacquiao done the Job!

He was real good the best in the world at the moment.

LOL, he wasn't a big challenge, I said that months ago on this thread and it was a brutal mismatch. Pac doesn't need to dominate a guy like Diaz to show his greatness.

[Pavlik]

I never made a big deal about this fight, I just watched on the sidelines while I read and heard various posts.

So when Pacquiao beat Diaz 'very convicingly' I just thought now I'm sure Pacquiao is the BEST Pound 4 Pound fighter at the moment, INCLUDING Mayweather.

I love hearing some saying how Diaz is not a big challenge and even how some said Daiz is gonna give Manny sone real problems.

All I say is Manny Pacquiao done the Job!

He was real good the best in the world at the moment.

LOL, he wasn't a big challenge, I said that months ago on this thread and it was a brutal mismatch. Pac doesn't need to dominate a guy like Diaz to show his greatness.

It wasnt as big as fighting a JMM but it was a feat by itself by knocking a guy like David Diaz out cold. David Diaz was stopped by Kendall Holt but not in this fashion and IMO it was a premature stoppage(Holt fight) so technically David Diaz was never really knocked out.

[OumaFan]

I never made a big deal about this fight, I just watched on the sidelines while I read and heard various posts.

So when Pacquiao beat Diaz 'very convicingly' I just thought now I'm sure Pacquiao is the BEST Pound 4 Pound fighter at the moment, INCLUDING Mayweather.

I love hearing some saying how Diaz is not a big challenge and even how some said Daiz is gonna give Manny sone real problems.

All I say is Manny Pacquiao done the Job!

He was real good the best in the world at the moment.

LOL, he wasn't a big challenge, I said that months ago on this thread and it was a brutal mismatch. Pac doesn't need to dominate a guy like Diaz to show his greatness.

It wasnt as big as fighting a JMM but it was a feat by itself by knocking a guy like David Diaz out cold. David Diaz was stopped by Kendall Holt but not in this fashion and IMO it was a premature stoppage(Holt fight) so technically David Diaz was never really knocked out.

Pacquaio looked very good. He could have been sub par and still won but to his credit he was sharp and beat the crap out of Diaz. But I never once thought of Diaz as a big challenge, that's all I'm saying.

[Pavlik]

LOL, he wasn't a big challenge, I said that months ago on this thread and it was a brutal mismatch. Pac doesn't need to dominate a guy like Diaz to show his greatness.

It wasnt as big as fighting a JMM but it was a feat by itself by knocking a guy like David Diaz out cold. David Diaz was stopped by Kendall Holt but not in this fashion and IMO it was a premature stoppage(Holt fight) so technically David Diaz was never really knocked out.

Pacquaio looked very good. He could have been sub par and still won but to his credit he was sharp and beat the crap out of Diaz. But I never once thought of Diaz as a big challenge, that's all I'm saying.

I agree Bro

[The Wind]

I was watching the Cotto Vs. Mosely fight this weekend and Emanuel Steward asked Max Kellerman "if Mayweather refuses to fight the winner of this fight, do you still consider him to be the best P4P?" Kellerman said "Yes I do" and Emanuel Steward was not pleased with his answer.

Pacquiao looked great against Diaz, similar to Mayweather Vs. Gatti. Pacquaio has taken on and beaten Morales, Barrera and Marquez who I accept were not at their absoloute best (apart from Marquez) but all 3 at the time were considered top ten P4P fighters, Marquez still is.

I can't say the same about De La Hoya and Boldimor, yes Hatton is considered top ten P4P, but that is the only one.

Alot of 'experts' were already stating that Pacquiao is the best P4P even when Mayweather had not retired, this was partly due to inactivity of Mayweather.

I mean Pacquiao is really something, he now is willing to fight Valero (who I know is unproven but still posses KO power) without any hesitation, he then wants to fight Hatton, who I fully believe Pacquiao will KO in 11 rounds.

I can already say when the time comes to compile the variuos lists of the Greatest Fighters/Boxers of All-time, Pacquiao will be rated higher than Mayweather and rightly so!

[amat]

That's way to hard to tell right now, impossible in fact. For one, neither fighter's career is over for certain. I am still holding out hope that Cotto-Mayweather will happen if Cotto continues winning into next year especially if he beats De La Hoya. I would be genuinely surprised if it didn't if Cotto beat Margarito and De La Hoya.

But even so, no telling what if anything Pacquiao can do at lightweight. Say he goes out early next year and loses to Hatton? Then what?

It's impossible to tell. In terms of skills, Floyd is one of the best we've ever seen imo. That's something that is going to carry him above all others in this generation when it is all said and done.

That's my opinion but like I said it is waaaaaaayyy to early to be talking about where they will be ranked when it's all said and done.

[Markusdarkus]

If Pacquaio cleans out 135 or beats Hatton then his career would dwarf what Floyd has done.

[DaxxKahn]

I can agree with some of those points, EG I do not think PBF is the P4P best fighter this sport has to offer right now.

On a P4P basis I wouls pick Manny Pacquiao over Floyd if both fought in the same weight class (hence the P4P basis comment because it is just not a fight that is possible to be fair on a size differential alone)

I also agree on the wins over DLH and Hatton not being that much of an accomplishment considering the stage of DLH career and Hatton having as much defensive skill as Ricky Ricardo has business being an English teacher...