How did Tyson even survive...

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I think at that point in time Larry Holmes fighting Foreman wouldn't have been that big of a deal. I mean people would have watched but it would be like watching Riddick Bowe fight someone now. In the late 80's early 90's Larry wasn't a force to be reckoned with.

Of course Foreman didn't want to fight Lennox, can you blame him Lennox was bigger, stronger, faster, and he could move better. Foreman would always have a puncher's chance vs anyone but it would have been way too risky to fight Lewis at that point in his career.



For Tyson, he had to have the intimidation factor working for him...if anyone fought back things got a little shakey. Tyson took big shots from Bruno and Rudduck. He came back to win because those guys were not keeping the pressure on or fighting smart, those guys always ended up fighting Tyson's fight....if we're talking Tyson-Foreman then George is one of the few I would trust to stand and trade with Tyson and come out on top.

Thats actually where your wrong Lyle Holmes was a force in the early 90's, Holmes beat Ray Mercer, almost beat prime Holyfield i had it 7-5 for Holyfield. And he should of beat Oliver McCall and that would of made him 2nd oldest Heavyweight champion in history. And the public did want to see Holmes vs Foreman it was a well talked about fight, but Foreman didn't want the fight. Im not saying Foreman ducked Holmes but he didn't want the fight for whatever reason.

But this just goes back to the cliche but true maxim that styles make fights. Lewis against Foreman would have been the classic example to a boxer-puncher against a slugger and that's a sluggers worst nightmare. Same thing, but to a lesser degree with an older Holmes. And you make my point by citing McCall, who was really good matchup for Holmes.

Tyson would have won rounds against George, but he would have gotten caught eventually. Once Foreman caught you, goodnight (other than the unreal heart and chin of Holyfield. You can say what you want about punch technique, but none other than Joe Frazier calls Foreman the hardest puncher he ever fought.

The old Foreman would not have been intimidated. He would not have been out thought. His jab was actually better in his comeback that in his early days, and he was probably better defensively. And to comment on Jimmy Young "exposing" Foreman. Again. Styles, matchups, and a psychologically damaged Foreman. I stand by my original point. Old Foreman was a huge threat to Tyson.

Oh no doubt i never said it wouldn't be a bad style match up for Tyson, im actually one of the people that thinks Foreman would of beat prime Tyson. The reason i bring up the punch technique is because its scary to think how much power Foreman would of had if he had the speed along with the punch technique.

I don't think Foreman was that good against boxers with movement, i mean did you see how Morrison totally out boxed Big George just by using simple movement ?? and also Jimmy Young was the same. I think against pure boxers Foreman would struggle badly, fighters like Lewis, Holmes.

[RozzySean]

Thats actually where your wrong Lyle Holmes was a force in the early 90's, Holmes beat Ray Mercer, almost beat prime Holyfield i had it 7-5 for Holyfield. And he should of beat Oliver McCall and that would of made him 2nd oldest Heavyweight champion in history. And the public did want to see Holmes vs Foreman it was a well talked about fight, but Foreman didn't want the fight. Im not saying Foreman ducked Holmes but he didn't want the fight for whatever reason.

But this just goes back to the cliche but true maxim that styles make fights. Lewis against Foreman would have been the classic example to a boxer-puncher against a slugger and that's a sluggers worst nightmare. Same thing, but to a lesser degree with an older Holmes. And you make my point by citing McCall, who was really good matchup for Holmes.

Tyson would have won rounds against George, but he would have gotten caught eventually. Once Foreman caught you, goodnight (other than the unreal heart and chin of Holyfield. You can say what you want about punch technique, but none other than Joe Frazier calls Foreman the hardest puncher he ever fought.

The old Foreman would not have been intimidated. He would not have been out thought. His jab was actually better in his comeback that in his early days, and he was probably better defensively. And to comment on Jimmy Young "exposing" Foreman. Again. Styles, matchups, and a psychologically damaged Foreman. I stand by my original point. Old Foreman was a huge threat to Tyson.

Oh no doubt i never said it wouldn't be a bad style match up for Tyson, im actually one of the people that thinks Foreman would of beat prime Tyson. The reason i bring up the punch technique is because its scary to think how much power Foreman would of had if he had the speed along with the punch technique.

I don't think Foreman was that good against boxers with movement, i mean did you see how Morrison totally out boxed Big George just by using simple movement ?? and also Jimmy Young was the same. I think against pure boxers Foreman would struggle badly, fighters like Lewis, Holmes.

I agree 100%.