State of Boxing 2008

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You know what makes me laugh and i have said this time and time again, people were saying it was a massive risk for Floyd Mayweather Jr to step up and fight ODLH who weighed almost 1 stone heavier on fight night. When the fight was over most people enjoyed it and see it as a close fight, i personally didn't see it that way but quite a few people did want to see a rematch. Now its considered a "Joke fight" i just don't understand people sometimes i really don't, yes there is better match ups for Mayweather to take but this still isn't a bad fight, and to be honest with you i can't see how you wouldn't want to watch this fight, the skill level in this fight is pretty great and i can't see how any true boxing fan wouldn't be intrigued by that but thats just my opinion.

Mayweather has proved he is an ATG he has won 5 titles in 5 weight classes, and off the top of my head only about 5 fighters have ever done that. Plus he has plenty of quality wins that certainly should label him ATG. Even if Mayweather retired after the rematch with ODLH he would still be ranked pretty high in all time P4P lists, probably only just outside the top 20, and skill wise he is probably top 5 of all time. I don't know what you class as "ATG" but Mayweather has the skills of an ATG, he has the wins of an ATG, he has the accomplishments of an ATG IMO.

How can Mayweather KO'ing Hatton not mean anything to you ?? ok i'll admit Hatton is better at 140 but come on, Hatton was at least ranked 8th by ring magazine on P4P lists if i remember right, and most people here had him in the top 10 P4P lists. And when you dominate and KO a P4P fighter in impressive fashion like Mayweather did, i find that astonishing that you don't find that impressive. And how in the hell is beating David Diaz at Lightweight who is considered weakest title holder at 135, better than beating ODLH who was almost stone heavier than Mayweather ?? ODLH is a much better fighter than Diaz P4P.

And you talk about should Mayweather be ahead of Pacquiao in P4P lists, and my answer is hell yes without a doubt in my mind. Mayweather is the better skilled fighter P4P, he has more achievements, he has been at the top way longer, he has more quality wins. I think its pretty easy answer to be honest. I agree with your comments about Mayweather fighting winner of Cotto vs Margarito but i still disagree Mayweather vs ODLH 2 is a bad match up.

You mentioned Lederman had it 115-113 for Castillo in the first fight, i think your getting mixed Lederman had it 115-111 in favor of Castillo, but he did have Mayweather winning the rematch 115-113 so maybe thats what your thinking of. I thought Castillo nicked it but i can for certain see a case for Mayweather winning, plus lets remember Mayweather had a shoulder injury going into 1st Castillo fight, and lets remember Mayweather won the rematch very convincing, and also these fights were years ago and Mayweather has improved since those fights.