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    Default Re: Oscar De la Hoya appreciation thread

    It seem to have become generally excepted that mayweather practically owned Oscar,wich didn't happen.

    Far from being an all-out slugfest the first fight was a little tactical but exiting non the less. I think the re-match is deserving,dont know how anyone else sees different.
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    I give Oscar props for the many things he has acheived.. Has been a very exciting fighter, and won some really great bouts... Nothing he does from here on in will make me forgot that stuff... But I do understand why some people's opinions of him have changed of late..

    Still, it's well worth appreciating what he's done in the ring, for himself, for boxing, and for fans..

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    I'll copy and paste what i said in the other thread regarding Mayweather vs Oscar 2.


    You know what makes me laugh and i have said this time and time again, people were saying it was a massive risk for Floyd Mayweather Jr to step up and fight ODLH who weighed almost 1 stone heavier on fight night. When the fight was over most people enjoyed it and see it as a close fight, i personally didn't see it that way but quite a few people did want to see a rematch. Now its considered a "Joke fight" i just don't understand people sometimes i really don't, yes there is better match ups for Mayweather to take but this still isn't a bad fight, and to be honest with you i can't see how you wouldn't want to watch this fight, the skill level in this fight is very high standard and i can't see how any true boxing fan wouldn't be intrigued by that but thats just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    I'll copy and paste what i said in the other thread regarding Mayweather vs Oscar 2.


    You know what makes me laugh and i have said this time and time again, people were saying it was a massive risk for Floyd Mayweather Jr to step up and fight ODLH who weighed almost 1 stone heavier on fight night. When the fight was over most people enjoyed it and see it as a close fight, i personally didn't see it that way but quite a few people did want to see a rematch. Now its considered a "Joke fight" i just don't understand people sometimes i really don't, yes there is better match ups for Mayweather to take but this still isn't a bad fight, and to be honest with you i can't see how you wouldn't want to watch this fight, the skill level in this fight is very high standard and i can't see how any true boxing fan wouldn't be intrigued by that but thats just my opinion.
    Ice it's a shit fight and you know it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    I'll copy and paste what i said in the other thread regarding Mayweather vs Oscar 2.


    You know what makes me laugh and i have said this time and time again, people were saying it was a massive risk for Floyd Mayweather Jr to step up and fight ODLH who weighed almost 1 stone heavier on fight night. When the fight was over most people enjoyed it and see it as a close fight, i personally didn't see it that way but quite a few people did want to see a rematch. Now its considered a "Joke fight" i just don't understand people sometimes i really don't, yes there is better match ups for Mayweather to take but this still isn't a bad fight, and to be honest with you i can't see how you wouldn't want to watch this fight, the skill level in this fight is very high standard and i can't see how any true boxing fan wouldn't be intrigued by that but thats just my opinion.
    Ice it's a shit fight and you know it.
    No thats called "your opinion" like thats my opinion. But your Mayweather hater anyway, at least i give Hatton credit even when i hate his fighting style.

    But if you think its crap fight try and debate those points i made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    I'll copy and paste what i said in the other thread regarding Mayweather vs Oscar 2.


    You know what makes me laugh and i have said this time and time again, people were saying it was a massive risk for Floyd Mayweather Jr to step up and fight ODLH who weighed almost 1 stone heavier on fight night. When the fight was over most people enjoyed it and see it as a close fight, i personally didn't see it that way but quite a few people did want to see a rematch. Now its considered a "Joke fight" i just don't understand people sometimes i really don't, yes there is better match ups for Mayweather to take but this still isn't a bad fight, and to be honest with you i can't see how you wouldn't want to watch this fight, the skill level in this fight is very high standard and i can't see how any true boxing fan wouldn't be intrigued by that but thats just my opinion.


    Ice it's a shit fight and you know it.
    No thats called "your opinion" like thats my opinion. But your Mayweather hater anyway, at least i give Hatton credit even when i hate his fighting style.

    But if you think its crap fight try and debate those points i made.
    Ice I know your a Floyd fan but your taking this too far, how can you say PBF-Oscar 2 is a good match ?? Floyd needs to fight Cotto/Margarito or Mosely, Williams etc. Oscar is a year older than last year and got busted up by a super-featherweight most recently, he's well past his prime now and it's time for him to hang them up. The fight is one of the most pointless rematches in years. It was only a SD last time as Oscar was actually forcing the fight and he was the fan's favourite. You said yourself you gave it to PBF clearly. I've hardly seen anyone score the bout to Oscar apart from that shitty judge. PBF is only doing this for money which supports my claim of Floyd being "Counterfit Money", P4P joke he is, he should fight a legitimate contender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
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    Ice it's a shit fight and you know it.
    No thats called "your opinion" like thats my opinion. But your Mayweather hater anyway, at least i give Hatton credit even when i hate his fighting style.

    But if you think its crap fight try and debate those points i made.
    Ice I know your a Floyd fan but your taking this too far, how can you say PBF-Oscar 2 is a good match ?? Floyd needs to fight Cotto/Margarito or Mosely, Williams etc. Oscar is a year older than last year and got busted up by a super-featherweight most recently, he's well past his prime now and it's time for him to hang them up. The fight is one of the most pointless rematches in years. It was only a SD last time as Oscar was actually forcing the fight and he was the fan's favourite. You said yourself you gave it to PBF clearly. I've hardly seen anyone score the bout to Oscar apart from that shitty judge. PBF is only doing this for money which supports my claim of Floyd being "Counterfit Money", P4P joke he is, he should fight a legitimate contender.
    Taking what too far ?? i don't see any problem with a rematch the first fight was a good competitive fight was it not ?? i already said there's better fights for Mayweather but that doesn't make Mayweather vs ODLH 2 a bad match up. I don't think you was around here before ODLH vs Mayweather 1. Well let me just tell you everyone was excited about this fight.

    Everyone before the fight see this as a big risk because Mayweather was moving up to weight class he nevr fought at before and plus ODLH heavily out weighed him, it was pretty much 50-50 with opinions split. And actually quite a lot of people had this very close fight not that i see it that way but i still see it as a good competitive fight. Now its suddenly a "Joke fight" when all these people before were saying that wouldn't mind a rematch, and all these people were saying Mayweather needed to fight ODLH.

    I never said he isn't doing it for money but regardless its still a good fight, as i have said before there are better fights out there but i still see this as a good fight. And to call Mayweather P4P joke is ridiculous, just look at the mans record and what he has achieved its second to none right at this moment, and he is probably one of the most skilled fighters of all time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post



    Ice it's a shit fight and you know it.
    No thats called "your opinion" like thats my opinion. But your Mayweather hater anyway, at least i give Hatton credit even when i hate his fighting style.

    But if you think its crap fight try and debate those points i made.
    Ice I know your a Floyd fan but your taking this too far, how can you say PBF-Oscar 2 is a good match ?? Floyd needs to fight Cotto/Margarito or Mosely, Williams etc. Oscar is a year older than last year and got busted up by a super-featherweight most recently, he's well past his prime now and it's time for him to hang them up. The fight is one of the most pointless rematches in years. It was only a SD last time as Oscar was actually forcing the fight and he was the fan's favourite. You said yourself you gave it to PBF clearly. I've hardly seen anyone score the bout to Oscar apart from that shitty judge. PBF is only doing this for money which supports my claim of Floyd being "Counterfit Money", P4P joke he is, he should fight a legitimate contender.
    so the whooping he gave Hatton shouldn't really count as taking a risk? or fighting the best? and Mayweather/DLH II is pointless, but Hatton/Mayweather II isn't? what kind of bullshit is that?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    I'll copy and paste what i said in the other thread regarding Mayweather vs Oscar 2.


    You know what makes me laugh and i have said this time and time again, people were saying it was a massive risk for Floyd Mayweather Jr to step up and fight ODLH who weighed almost 1 stone heavier on fight night. When the fight was over most people enjoyed it and see it as a close fight, i personally didn't see it that way but quite a few people did want to see a rematch. Now its considered a "Joke fight" i just don't understand people sometimes i really don't, yes there is better match ups for Mayweather to take but this still isn't a bad fight, and to be honest with you i can't see how you wouldn't want to watch this fight, the skill level in this fight is very high standard and i can't see how any true boxing fan wouldn't be intrigued by that but thats just my opinion.

    I guess i'm one of the few who agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    I'll copy and paste what i said in the other thread regarding Mayweather vs Oscar 2.


    You know what makes me laugh and i have said this time and time again, people were saying it was a massive risk for Floyd Mayweather Jr to step up and fight ODLH who weighed almost 1 stone heavier on fight night. When the fight was over most people enjoyed it and see it as a close fight, i personally didn't see it that way but quite a few people did want to see a rematch. Now its considered a "Joke fight" i just don't understand people sometimes i really don't, yes there is better match ups for Mayweather to take but this still isn't a bad fight, and to be honest with you i can't see how you wouldn't want to watch this fight, the skill level in this fight is very high standard and i can't see how any true boxing fan wouldn't be intrigued by that but thats just my opinion.
    I get your point and you formulate it very well. It seems like a lot of people consider Mayweather-DLH I a joke fight in hindsight which at the end of the day is merely stupid. There _were_ a lot of questionmarks beforehand - weight, height, Oscar's power, ringsize, gloves etc - that made this a fight worth waiting for. That extra amount of uncertainty, where a fight might genuinely go both ways - well, it was there. I had Mayweather as a clear winner on points going into the fight (also afterwards btw), but a lot of people believed different, and even I could acknowledge that with everything set to favour him, Oscar *might* just do the job. He couldn't, but that should be testament to Mayweather's qualitites, not merely confirm him as a fraud.

    However, for a rematch the question marks aren't really there. Floyd can hang in there with 12 rounds, even at 154. Floyd can move around ODLH for 12 rounds without getting caught big time. Floyd is willing to do that, no matter what he says beforehand about knocking him out. In short, the surprises that we thought we might just be in for, well they seem very, very unlikely now. Add to all this that Oscar is not getting any younger, and probably not any hungrier either. The best we can hope for IMO is Floyd becoming sloppy, but I really would rather see him be serious on other challenges instead.

    As for calling it a joke fight - even for a sporting point of view, Oscar is probably among the top 10 best opponents for Floyd, but it just seem so pointless anyway.

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    The rematch is disappointing. Even though DLH did better than expected in the first time and made it fairly close and competitive, I don't think it was the type of fight that warrants a rematch.

    As everyone else, I'd rather see Mayweather-Cotto, but even if Mayweather wanted Cotto, I think we'd end up with Cotto-DLH (and we'd miss out on Cotto-Margarito). As it is, I think we'll still get PBF and Cotto should they both win their next fights.

    It's easy to criticize Floyd for going after this rematch, but honestly, the list of guys who would turn down this type of money for a DLH rematch is very short.

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