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    Default Re: The LINEAL welterweight championship

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    I enjoy debating with you too.

    You say his options to keep his title, does that mean you agree with stripping?

    Out of all those fighters listed the winner of Cotto/ Margarito is the fight people will want to see & the one which make most sense.

    By what I assume your insinuating is that if Floyd fights DLH next you'll recogize the Cotto/ Margarito winner as champ? Or you may already recognize Cotto.

    But doesn't that leave us in the same predicament? Where we will have questions about who is better Cotto or Mayweather? Mayweather will still be the linear champion belt or no belts, Cotto will hold alphabet trinkets.

    Isn't it much easier to recognize a champion until he is beaten in the ring. If that champion doesn't defend against who the fans what the we need to put pressure on him until the fights we want are made. The answer is not just to recognize someone else. You mentioned before about what makes pro sports. All other sports have one champion, that is what pro sports is all about!

    If Cotto dismantles Margarito there will be no other opponent for Floyd to face.

    I'm sure we will get Cotto/ Mayweather in early '09 but if we don't Mayweather will still be champion @ 147 until he is has his championship taken from him (in the ring)
    If Cotto beats Margarito I must in following my theory recognize Cotto as the man at 147 why? Because look who he has beat from that list.

    2) Shane Mosley
    3) Carlos Quintana
    5) Antonio Margarito (with the assumption that he wins in this scenario)
    6) Zab Judah

    As opposed to Floyd

    6) Zab Judah

    I definately see where you are coming from, and I would rather not strip away a title from someone, but if there are no credible defenses made, I have a hard time recognizing someone as the champ.
    Out of Cotto's opponents none of them were champion. I'm sure a proud warrior such as Cotto would rather win his championship in the ring than have it handed to him.

    Benny Leonard made just 6 defenses in 8 years, stripping is not the answer it just adds to the problem!
    I don't think punishing people for not defending against the top 10 adds to the problem, it would make fighters have to fight more often, the lack of activity is the problem to me. I hate the fact that it is standard for title holders to fight once or twice a year and that is the norm now.

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    Default Re: The LINEAL welterweight championship

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post

    If Cotto beats Margarito I must in following my theory recognize Cotto as the man at 147 why? Because look who he has beat from that list.

    2) Shane Mosley
    3) Carlos Quintana
    5) Antonio Margarito (with the assumption that he wins in this scenario)
    6) Zab Judah

    As opposed to Floyd

    6) Zab Judah

    I definately see where you are coming from, and I would rather not strip away a title from someone, but if there are no credible defenses made, I have a hard time recognizing someone as the champ.
    Out of Cotto's opponents none of them were champion. I'm sure a proud warrior such as Cotto would rather win his championship in the ring than have it handed to him.

    Benny Leonard made just 6 defenses in 8 years, stripping is not the answer it just adds to the problem!
    I don't think punishing people for not defending against the top 10 adds to the problem, it would make fighters have to fight more often, the lack of activity is the problem to me. I hate the fact that it is standard for title holders to fight once or twice a year and that is the norm now.
    Having more than one champion in each division is the biggest problem there is for our sport. No other sport has this ridiculousness!

    I too get frustrated by inactivity but fighters make loads more these days so they don't need to fight as often... I don't see this changing.

    But recognizing one champion in each division is something simple we can do to better our sport & Ring magazine has given us the opportunity to do this.

    As I remember Hatton was ranked about #4 at 147 until he informed the Ring that he was returning to 140. So in essence by defeating Hatton Floyd defeated not only another champion but also potentially a top 10 welter.
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