Matthew Saad Muhammad vs Dwight Muhammad Qawi

[Dark Lord Al]

Haven't ever seen these fights but i heard Muhammad took a pasting in both fights, was Muhammad past his prime when he fought Qawi ??

SURELY SOMEONE MUST HAVE A LICK SO ICE CAN WATCH THESE FIGHTS ?

[saad79]

Saad was slightly past his prime when he fought braxton. His absolute prime was around the 2nd Lopez fight in 1980. I agree, Braxton was just a bad style for him. plus he came in heavy and obviously didn't train his best. He underestimated Braxton. The second fight was sad. Saad took a tremendous pounding, and was shot from that time onward. It's too bad Saad didn't avoid Braxton. Had he made one more defense, a unification fight with Michael Spinks was in the works. I believe Spinks was a better style for Saad and it would have been a good fight.

[Taeth]

Um Quawi is an absolute beast,IMO he beat Holyfield in their first fight. I don't have problem seeing him beat any cruiserweight or lightheavyweight unless they are really good counter punchers who could stay away from him. He reminded me of a more powerful Glen Johnson.

[CGM]

Yeah, Qawi was mean and intimidating. I'm pretty sure he learned his trade and started his pro career in prison, at Rahway, they had a good boxing program there. Not sure if they still do.

[rayr0683]

Um Quawi is an absolute beast,IMO he beat Holyfield in their first fight. I don't have problem seeing him beat any cruiserweight or lightheavyweight unless they are really good counter punchers who could stay away from him. He reminded me of a more powerful Glen Johnson.

A Novice Holyfield took on Qwai, while never having been past 6 rounds, and only 11 pro bouts, and he was total class....it was kinda early in Evander's career to take on a fighter of qwai's experience, but Evander diod it, went the distance, and BEAT Him....even with all of the LOEW Blows Qwai threw, and was warned about!!!

[marbleheadmaui]

I was living in suburban Philly at the time and Miracle Matthew was seen as a municipal treasure. EVERYONE could hit Saad. Of course for about five years that only led to incredible comebacks. By the time he ran into Qawi Saad had had wars with The Indian twice, Marvin twice , Billy Douglas and Richie Kates. He wasn't shot or anything close but he may have been just a little worn. Still in his pirme but maybe past his absolute peak.

Qawi literally was a Buzzsaw. He hit Saad a lot early, like everyone did, but when Saad tried to mount one of his comebacks Qawi would just hit the accelerator and step on his throat. Qawi deserves full credit for those wins and he finished Saad as a top fighter.

[rayr0683]

Hello,
I too was from Philly, and used to watch Saad spar with Steve Traitz, and other fighters, Curtis Parker, Bennie Briscoe, LeRoy Diggs...and so on. Saad was a very humble and nice person outside the Ring....and to the Public. A couple of Fighters that I didn't care for, fromn the area in those time, were Qwai, Frank Animal Fletcher...and even Eddie Gregory.....But saad, you just had to like him!!! best, Ray

I was living in suburban Philly at the time and Miracle Matthew was seen as a municipal treasure. EVERYONE could hit Saad. Of course for about five years that only led to incredible comebacks. By the time he ran into Qawi Saad had had wars with The Indian twice, Marvin twice , Billy Douglas and Richie Kates. He wasn't shot or anything close but he may have been just a little worn. Still in his pirme but maybe past his absolute peak.

Qawi literally was a Buzzsaw. He hit Saad a lot early, like everyone did, but when Saad tried to mount one of his comebacks Qawi would just hit the accelerator and step on his throat. Qawi deserves full credit for those wins and he finished Saad as a top fighter.

[marbleheadmaui]

Hello,
I too was from Philly, and used to watch Saad spar with Steve Traitz, and other fighters, Curtis Parker, Bennie Briscoe, LeRoy Diggs...and so on. Saad was a very humble and nice person outside the Ring....and to the Public. A couple of Fighters that I didn't care for, fromn the area in those time, were Qwai, Frank Animal Fletcher...and even Eddie Gregory.....But saad, you just had to like him!!! best, Ray

I was living in suburban Philly at the time and Miracle Matthew was seen as a municipal treasure. EVERYONE could hit Saad. Of course for about five years that only led to incredible comebacks. By the time he ran into Qawi Saad had had wars with The Indian twice, Marvin twice , Billy Douglas and Richie Kates. He wasn't shot or anything close but he may have been just a little worn. Still in his pirme but maybe past his absolute peak.

Qawi literally was a Buzzsaw. He hit Saad a lot early, like everyone did, but when Saad tried to mount one of his comebacks Qawi would just hit the accelerator and step on his throat. Qawi deserves full credit for those wins and he finished Saad as a top fighter.

Steve Traitz? Now there is a name I haven't thought about for 30 years! Some high school friends of mine trained with him. Wasn't the Blue Horizon fun in those days? Philly had some truly tough guys.

[Master]

Um Quawi is an absolute beast,IMO he beat Holyfield in their first fight. I don't have problem seeing him beat any cruiserweight or lightheavyweight unless they are really good counter punchers who could stay away from him. He reminded me of a more powerful Glen Johnson.

A Novice Holyfield took on Qwai, while never having been past 6 rounds, and only 11 pro bouts, and he was total class....it was kinda early in Evander's career to take on a fighter of qwai's experience, but Evander diod it, went the distance, and BEAT Him....even with all of the LOEW Blows Qwai threw, and was warned about!!!

That was a brutal fight for Holyfield who had to go to hospital for dehydration.

[Mr140]

Evander Holyfeild was green as shit and i for one thought he won the fight and we all know what happened in the rematch. Thats when the CW had depth and thats the only time division ever did.

[ICB]

I've seen these fights since this thread, and even though i loved Matthew Saad Muhammad as a fighter. He got destroyed especially in the 2nd fight, yes the tough fights had caught up with him. But i just think Dwight Muhammad Qawi's style was all wrong for him.

Matthew Saad Muhammad often threw straight punches, which allowed Dwight Muhammad Qawi to get under his punches. And beat the living hell out of Matthew Saad Muhammad, the 2nd fight was actually quite sad to see.