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    Default Re: The LINEAL welterweight championship

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    Cheers mate I always enjoy debating you. I suppose I should clarify by top 10 I mean THE RING'S top 10, which is what I recognize as the foremost authority. I mean that's really what we're talking about here right.

    His options to keep his title would be at this point
    1) Miguel Cotto
    2) Shane Mosley
    3) Carlos Quintana
    4) Paul Williams
    5) Antonio Margarito
    6) Zab Judah
    7) Josh Clottey
    Luis Collazo
    9) Jackson Bonsu
    10) Kermit Cintron

    Look at those options, there are fights there that would make good money, fights that would make great money, fights that would be easy, fights that would be more competitive. I don't think it's asking too much for a divisional champ to defend his title again the top 10 list. Now if we are talking lineal champ, well how does that work if PBF has 1 alphabet and Cotto or Margarito has two straps?
    I enjoy debating with you too.

    You say his options to keep his title, does that mean you agree with stripping?

    Out of all those fighters listed the winner of Cotto/ Margarito is the fight people will want to see & the one which make most sense.

    By what I assume your insinuating is that if Floyd fights DLH next you'll recogize the Cotto/ Margarito winner as champ? Or you may already recognize Cotto.

    But doesn't that leave us in the same predicament? Where we will have questions about who is better Cotto or Mayweather? Mayweather will still be the linear champion belt or no belts, Cotto will hold alphabet trinkets.

    Isn't it much easier to recognize a champion until he is beaten in the ring. If that champion doesn't defend against who the fans what the we need to put pressure on him until the fights we want are made. The answer is not just to recognize someone else. You mentioned before about what makes pro sports. All other sports have one champion, that is what pro sports is all about!

    If Cotto dismantles Margarito there will be no other opponent for Floyd to face.

    I'm sure we will get Cotto/ Mayweather in early '09 but if we don't Mayweather will still be champion @ 147 until he is has his championship taken from him (in the ring)
    If Cotto beats Margarito I must in following my theory recognize Cotto as the man at 147 why? Because look who he has beat from that list.

    2) Shane Mosley
    3) Carlos Quintana
    5) Antonio Margarito (with the assumption that he wins in this scenario)
    6) Zab Judah

    As opposed to Floyd

    6) Zab Judah

    I definately see where you are coming from, and I would rather not strip away a title from someone, but if there are no credible defenses made, I have a hard time recognizing someone as the champ.
    I completely agree with you bro........you had been saying something real ..................
    Good post............

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    Default Re: The LINEAL welterweight championship

    Not to hijack the thread but is the use of the word "lineal" a British venacular? I only say this b/c I've never seen the term "Lineal Champ" only "Linear Champ". Lineal suggest of the same Lineage where Linear annotates in a sinlge line. Anyway I digress I just found it an odd use of words
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    Default Re: The LINEAL welterweight championship

    Quote Originally Posted by VanChilds View Post
    Not to hijack the thread but is the use of the word "lineal" a British venacular? I only say this b/c I've never seen the term "Lineal Champ" only "Linear Champ". Lineal suggest of the same Lineage where Linear annotates in a sinlge line. Anyway I digress I just found it an odd use of words
    Yeah i know what you mean bro i thought the same thing myself..

    I know what i mean by the term and i wondered whether it was linear of lineal so i actually looked it up before i posted..

    lin·e·al Audio Help /ˈlɪniəl/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[lin-ee-uhl] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –adjective 1.being in the direct line, as a descendant or ancestor, or in a direct line, as descent or succession. 2.of or transmitted by lineal descent.

    lin·e·ar Audio Help /ˈlɪniər/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[lin-ee-er] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –adjective 1.of, consisting of, or using lines: linear design. 2.pertaining to or represented by lines: linear dimensions. 3.extended or arranged in a line: a linear series. 4.involving measurement in one dimension only; pertaining to length: linear measure.
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