Tinz 06 is absolutely right pavliks trainer disses joe to no end but when enzo does it to pavlik people start hating.

in my opinion enzo's right he is mechanical he only knows how to go forward and throw straights ok against gary lockett pavlik will take him out but lockett or is stable aint going to admitt it.
When you start putting joe in with with pavlikk say the only thing he can do is slap but watch his old fights like eubanks for example put him down with a short sharp left hand and byronn mitchell tko'd him with a barrage of accurate powerful shots i'm not trying to say as powerful as pavlik but he's not a weakling. pavliks wins over jermaine were good fights especially the first fight but even in that fight jermaine showed what happens when pavlik loses control of a fight he starts walking backwards loses timing and drops his hands and lets all be honest jermaine is any thing but a fundemetaly sound where as i think joe is fundemetally sound(although he likes to get cocky dropping hands) but also changes style i.e bernard fight mikkel fight.