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    Default Re: Does it bother you...

    Guzman wasn't boring against Soto. He impressed me for the first time.

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    Default Re: Does it bother you...

    Quote Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft View Post
    Guzman wasn't boring against Soto. He impressed me for the first time.
    It really doesn't take much to find an exciting Guzman fight. All you have to do is just not watch the last 8 rounds against Barrios where he had a hand to protect.

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    I can usually roll with it.What really gets me is how easily some people tear down a fighter they do not care for and in the process tear down alot of there competition,Other fighters.

    Its one thing to find fault with a guy's style,temperament,public displays etc and performance in a fight but I try to refrain from the broad brush slight on alot of there fellow fighters,"He was a bum,He was s!!!,did not show heart" etc

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    I get annoyed when folk look back and say 'yeh but that fighter was shot'

    Examples: Hopkins vs Calzaghe, Tszyu - Hatton

    It sorta takes away from someone's achievements. Especially when nobody was saying they were shot before the fight.

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    Default Re: Does it bother you...

    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    I get annoyed when folk look back and say 'yeh but that fighter was shot'

    Examples: Hopkins vs Calzaghe, Tszyu - Hatton

    It sorta takes away from someone's achievements. Especially when nobody was saying they were shot before the fight.
    That's what I mean, specially with Hatton, I seem to remember about 90% of the forum predicting Tszyu to knock him out in just a few rounds, even the experts said it......and quite rightly too, Tszyu totally hammered Mitchell beforehand. I'm certain no one rated Hatton higher than Mitchell at any point before Hatton beat Tszyu also.

    It was one win that no one can ever take away from him IMO

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    I agree that people tend to become geniuses about a fighter after he loses a fight but as long as they say it before the fight I don't have a problem with it. If you say a guy's underrated or shot before the fight that's one thing. Personally I thought Castillo was past it before Hatton beat him.

    But I didn't say anything about Lacy being overrated and neither did a lot of people. In retrospect he was overrated to some extent, just look at the Kessler, and Hopkins fights and you can see the difference between those guys and Lacy on that night.

    But I agree people do try to tear down other fighters.

    BTW I didn't think Tsyzu was shot (wasn't prime but wasn't shot) and I still don't.

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    Default Re: Does it bother you...

    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    I agree that people tend to become geniuses about a fighter after he loses a fight but as long as they say it before the fight I don't have a problem with it. If you say a guy's underrated or shot before the fight that's one thing. Personally I thought Castillo was past it before Hatton beat him.

    But I didn't say anything about Lacy being overrated and neither did a lot of people. In retrospect he was overrated to some extent, just look at the Kessler, and Hopkins fights and you can see the difference between those guys and Lacy on that night.

    But I agree people do try to tear down other fighters.

    BTW I didn't think Tsyzu was shot (wasn't prime but wasn't shot) and I still don't.
    Yeh and having that opinion before the fight and sticking it to it afterwards is perfectly acceptable.

    I know a,lot of folk on here who said Castillo was a 50/50 fight and then went on to say hatton only won because Castillo was shot.

    I personally don't think either fighter was shot....nor at their best. I do think that even at their best, Hatton would probably still win.....but i'm a Hatton fan so i suppose i would say that!.

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    Default Re: Does it bother you...

    It does a little especially when people say Kosta was shot, Castillo shot, Maussa bum etc.

    I just wanna say to everyone as well I'm a massive Hatton fan though I love boxing in general. I especially love British domestic fights involving Carl Johansson, Esham Pickering etc on Sky and do RBR's for them from time to time. I woke up at 3AM to watch Pavlik-Taylor 2, if I was just a Hatton fan why would I bother getting my ass up at 3AM ?? JT Rock stated "Lefty is a Hatton fan not a boxing fan". Thats bullshit. Thats like saying Danny G is only a Cotto fan or ds91 just a Hopkins fan just because we have our favourites. Why don't I have an account on the Hatton forum ?? I'm also a massive David Haye fan. I'm even a big Amir Khan fan (Though his opposition sometimes irritates me) and I'm a Michael Katsidis fan. Ask ICB me and him had a big debate over who has the better record, Khan or Froch. That comment from JT wound me up but I'm over it now. I know I dislike Mayweather but I admire his skill and respect his game, I've said that a couple of times before.
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    Default Re: Does it bother you...

    I know it always bothers when people talk about the fighter's I like.For instance Oscar De La Hoya.When the man has fought everyone possible but still he sucks cause he wears fishnet's.

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