Does it bother you...

[Kel]

I get annoyed when folk look back and say 'yeh but that fighter was shot'

Examples: Hopkins vs Calzaghe, Tszyu - Hatton

It sorta takes away from someone's achievements. Especially when nobody was saying they were shot before the fight.

That's what I mean, specially with Hatton, I seem to remember about 90% of the forum predicting Tszyu to knock him out in just a few rounds, even the experts said it......and quite rightly too, Tszyu totally hammered Mitchell beforehand. I'm certain no one rated Hatton higher than Mitchell at any point before Hatton beat Tszyu also.

It was one win that no one can ever take away from him IMO

[OumaFan]

I agree that people tend to become geniuses about a fighter after he loses a fight but as long as they say it before the fight I don't have a problem with it. If you say a guy's underrated or shot before the fight that's one thing. Personally I thought Castillo was past it before Hatton beat him.

But I didn't say anything about Lacy being overrated and neither did a lot of people. In retrospect he was overrated to some extent, just look at the Kessler, and Hopkins fights and you can see the difference between those guys and Lacy on that night.

But I agree people do try to tear down other fighters.

BTW I didn't think Tsyzu was shot (wasn't prime but wasn't shot) and I still don't.

[ono]

I agree that people tend to become geniuses about a fighter after he loses a fight but as long as they say it before the fight I don't have a problem with it. If you say a guy's underrated or shot before the fight that's one thing. Personally I thought Castillo was past it before Hatton beat him.

But I didn't say anything about Lacy being overrated and neither did a lot of people. In retrospect he was overrated to some extent, just look at the Kessler, and Hopkins fights and you can see the difference between those guys and Lacy on that night.

But I agree people do try to tear down other fighters.

BTW I didn't think Tsyzu was shot (wasn't prime but wasn't shot) and I still don't.

Yeh and having that opinion before the fight and sticking it to it afterwards is perfectly acceptable.

I know a,lot of folk on here who said Castillo was a 50/50 fight and then went on to say hatton only won because Castillo was shot.

I personally don't think either fighter was shot....nor at their best. I do think that even at their best, Hatton would probably still win.....but i'm a Hatton fan so i suppose i would say that!.

[leftylee]

It does a little especially when people say Kosta was shot, Castillo shot, Maussa bum etc.

I just wanna say to everyone as well I'm a massive Hatton fan though I love boxing in general. I especially love British domestic fights involving Carl Johansson, Esham Pickering etc on Sky and do RBR's for them from time to time. I woke up at 3AM to watch Pavlik-Taylor 2, if I was just a Hatton fan why would I bother getting my ass up at 3AM ?? JT Rock stated "Lefty is a Hatton fan not a boxing fan". Thats bullshit. Thats like saying Danny G is only a Cotto fan or ds91 just a Hopkins fan just because we have our favourites. Why don't I have an account on the Hatton forum ?? I'm also a massive David Haye fan. I'm even a big Amir Khan fan (Though his opposition sometimes irritates me) and I'm a Michael Katsidis fan. Ask ICB me and him had a big debate over who has the better record, Khan or Froch. That comment from JT wound me up but I'm over it now. I know I dislike Mayweather but I admire his skill and respect his game, I've said that a couple of times before.

[HattonTheHammer]

So true lefty

worst thing i ever did was signing up with this username as people now automatically assume im gay for hatton and will defend the guy at every corner.

Id like to believe im subjective enough to criticise even someone like hatton who i travelled a good 100 miles and spent silly amounts of money just to see him fight saturday.

Great fighters who you have an affiliation for will come and go over the years, the sport of boxing however will be here when we are all long gone and its natural to wanna savour every single great fight/fighter just as much as the next man.

[BoxingGorilla]

Tyson haters would throw me off my feed. More so the ones who didn't follow boxing and just hated him because it was fashionable to diss him at cocktail parties.

[Kev]

I can't even bring myself to support a fighter who is well liked by people on this forum.

I'm antagonistic by nature and so automatically gravitate to those fighters who other's despise, Floyd, Froch, Margarito, Mayorga etc.

Fighters like Winky, Barrera, Mijares (especially fucking Mijares) and Fatton just bore me to tears. But I'm sure if Mijares got convicted for animal cruelty or wife battering and everyone started hating on him, he'd get one new fan at least

[JT Rock]

It does a little especially when people say Kosta was shot, Castillo shot, Maussa bum etc.

I just wanna say to everyone as well I'm a massive Hatton fan though I love boxing in general. I especially love British domestic fights involving Carl Johansson, Esham Pickering etc on Sky and do RBR's for them from time to time. I woke up at 3AM to watch Pavlik-Taylor 2, if I was just a Hatton fan why would I bother getting my ass up at 3AM ?? JT Rock stated "Lefty is a Hatton fan not a boxing fan". Thats bullshit. Thats like saying Danny G is only a Cotto fan or ds91 just a Hopkins fan just because we have our favourites. Why don't I have an account on the Hatton forum ?? I'm also a massive David Haye fan. I'm even a big Amir Khan fan (Though his opposition sometimes irritates me) and I'm a Michael Katsidis fan. Ask ICB me and him had a big debate over who has the better record, Khan or Froch. That comment from JT wound me up but I'm over it now. I know I dislike Mayweather but I admire his skill and respect his game, I've said that a couple of times before.

Hey man, I didnt say anything different than what people were already implying... You can be wound up all you want bro, but the proof is in the pudding and is the general consensus of your peers

The thread isint hidden anyone can read it and draw there own conclusion, but I think most will see the consistency in the theme and CONSTRUCTIVE crticism toward you

[leftylee]

It does a little especially when people say Kosta was shot, Castillo shot, Maussa bum etc.

I just wanna say to everyone as well I'm a massive Hatton fan though I love boxing in general. I especially love British domestic fights involving Carl Johansson, Esham Pickering etc on Sky and do RBR's for them from time to time. I woke up at 3AM to watch Pavlik-Taylor 2, if I was just a Hatton fan why would I bother getting my ass up at 3AM ?? JT Rock stated "Lefty is a Hatton fan not a boxing fan". Thats bullshit. Thats like saying Danny G is only a Cotto fan or ds91 just a Hopkins fan just because we have our favourites. Why don't I have an account on the Hatton forum ?? I'm also a massive David Haye fan. I'm even a big Amir Khan fan (Though his opposition sometimes irritates me) and I'm a Michael Katsidis fan. Ask ICB me and him had a big debate over who has the better record, Khan or Froch. That comment from JT wound me up but I'm over it now. I know I dislike Mayweather but I admire his skill and respect his game, I've said that a couple of times before.

Hey man, I didnt say anything different than what people were already implying... You can be wound up all you want bro, but the proof is in the pudding and is the general consensus of your peers

The thread isint hidden anyone can read it and draw there own conclusion, but I think most will see the consistency in the theme and CONSTRUCTIVE crticism toward you

Say what you want man but I know myself I ain't just a Hatton fan. End Of.

[JT Rock]

It does a little especially when people say Kosta was shot, Castillo shot, Maussa bum etc.

I just wanna say to everyone as well I'm a massive Hatton fan though I love boxing in general. I especially love British domestic fights involving Carl Johansson, Esham Pickering etc on Sky and do RBR's for them from time to time. I woke up at 3AM to watch Pavlik-Taylor 2, if I was just a Hatton fan why would I bother getting my ass up at 3AM ?? JT Rock stated "Lefty is a Hatton fan not a boxing fan". Thats bullshit. Thats like saying Danny G is only a Cotto fan or ds91 just a Hopkins fan just because we have our favourites. Why don't I have an account on the Hatton forum ?? I'm also a massive David Haye fan. I'm even a big Amir Khan fan (Though his opposition sometimes irritates me) and I'm a Michael Katsidis fan. Ask ICB me and him had a big debate over who has the better record, Khan or Froch. That comment from JT wound me up but I'm over it now. I know I dislike Mayweather but I admire his skill and respect his game, I've said that a couple of times before.

Hey man, I didnt say anything different than what people were already implying... You can be wound up all you want bro, but the proof is in the pudding and is the general consensus of your peers

The thread isint hidden anyone can read it and draw there own conclusion, but I think most will see the consistency in the theme and CONSTRUCTIVE crticism toward you

Say what you want man but I know myself I ain't just a Hatton fan. End Of.

It is what it is man

[killersheep]

It does bother me when people talk poorly of my favorite fighter especially when they call him chinny. But I just gotta remember they probably haven't ever seen him fight. Plus i don't get much support because I am the only one here that has him as a favorite.

For those of you that don't know my favorite fighter is Jhonny Gonzalez.

I think the easiest people to upset are the Hatton fans, there are a lot of them and they are not all like this.

And to see where I stand on this for the most debated fights.

Hatton vs. Tszyu - Good win for Hatton, feel he got some help from the ref, but he did exactly what he needed to do and overtook the best 140 lber in the game.

Hatton vs. Castillo - Castillo was washed up, you can't deny this he looked horrible against Ngoudjo and got gifted a decision.

Hatton vs. Collazo - Had even rounds 6-6 Hatton wons cause of the knockdown in round one. Even match IMO told me that Hatton should have stayed at 140 (I understand the prefight politics led to him fighting at 147). If Collazo would have gone offensive more, I think he could have at least knocked Hatton down.

Hatton vs. Mayweather - Hatton gave a good account of himself, had the ref working against his style in the first round, but he did what he could and I respect that.

Hatton vs. Lazcano - This fight was almost all Hatton, Lazcano caught him good a few times, but Hatton recovered quickly, it did show however a little slowing in Hatton's handspeed and put a big red 'X' where Hatton is vulnerable to the left hook. Still a good win for his fans.

Calzaghe vs. Lacy - Lacy was overhyped, America was desperate for a hero at 168 and so he was put in that position. If Lacy had a chance to get a few more fights under his belt particularly against someone with handspeed he may have learned more, but he was outclassed before the first bell rang.

Calzaghe vs. Kessler - This is where Joe got my respect he fought the guy rated right behind him, a solid fundamentals boxer, that had enough power to actually hurt Calzaghe and enough skill to put that into motion. Calzaghe really impressed that night, adapting to Kess pushing him out of his comfort zone and dominating the championship rounds.

Calzaghe vs. Hopkins - Hopkins lost this fight more than Joe won IMO not trying to take anything away from Calzaghe he did exactly what he needed to do press the action and keep those flurries flying. Hopkins has to realize he can't win with that output, no judge in their right mind is going to say he's luring him and one of these times he'll hit him, i'll give him that round. Good fight and good name to go on Joe's resume.

[The Fightfan]

I know it always bothers when people talk about the fighter's I like.For instance Oscar De La Hoya.When the man has fought everyone possible but still he sucks cause he wears fishnet's.