Does it bother you...

[JT Rock]

It does a little especially when people say Kosta was shot, Castillo shot, Maussa bum etc.

I just wanna say to everyone as well I'm a massive Hatton fan though I love boxing in general. I especially love British domestic fights involving Carl Johansson, Esham Pickering etc on Sky and do RBR's for them from time to time. I woke up at 3AM to watch Pavlik-Taylor 2, if I was just a Hatton fan why would I bother getting my ass up at 3AM ?? JT Rock stated "Lefty is a Hatton fan not a boxing fan". Thats bullshit. Thats like saying Danny G is only a Cotto fan or ds91 just a Hopkins fan just because we have our favourites. Why don't I have an account on the Hatton forum ?? I'm also a massive David Haye fan. I'm even a big Amir Khan fan (Though his opposition sometimes irritates me) and I'm a Michael Katsidis fan. Ask ICB me and him had a big debate over who has the better record, Khan or Froch. That comment from JT wound me up but I'm over it now. I know I dislike Mayweather but I admire his skill and respect his game, I've said that a couple of times before.

Hey man, I didnt say anything different than what people were already implying... You can be wound up all you want bro, but the proof is in the pudding and is the general consensus of your peers

The thread isint hidden anyone can read it and draw there own conclusion, but I think most will see the consistency in the theme and CONSTRUCTIVE crticism toward you

[leftylee]

It does a little especially when people say Kosta was shot, Castillo shot, Maussa bum etc.

I just wanna say to everyone as well I'm a massive Hatton fan though I love boxing in general. I especially love British domestic fights involving Carl Johansson, Esham Pickering etc on Sky and do RBR's for them from time to time. I woke up at 3AM to watch Pavlik-Taylor 2, if I was just a Hatton fan why would I bother getting my ass up at 3AM ?? JT Rock stated "Lefty is a Hatton fan not a boxing fan". Thats bullshit. Thats like saying Danny G is only a Cotto fan or ds91 just a Hopkins fan just because we have our favourites. Why don't I have an account on the Hatton forum ?? I'm also a massive David Haye fan. I'm even a big Amir Khan fan (Though his opposition sometimes irritates me) and I'm a Michael Katsidis fan. Ask ICB me and him had a big debate over who has the better record, Khan or Froch. That comment from JT wound me up but I'm over it now. I know I dislike Mayweather but I admire his skill and respect his game, I've said that a couple of times before.

Hey man, I didnt say anything different than what people were already implying... You can be wound up all you want bro, but the proof is in the pudding and is the general consensus of your peers

The thread isint hidden anyone can read it and draw there own conclusion, but I think most will see the consistency in the theme and CONSTRUCTIVE crticism toward you

Say what you want man but I know myself I ain't just a Hatton fan. End Of.

[JT Rock]

It does a little especially when people say Kosta was shot, Castillo shot, Maussa bum etc.

I just wanna say to everyone as well I'm a massive Hatton fan though I love boxing in general. I especially love British domestic fights involving Carl Johansson, Esham Pickering etc on Sky and do RBR's for them from time to time. I woke up at 3AM to watch Pavlik-Taylor 2, if I was just a Hatton fan why would I bother getting my ass up at 3AM ?? JT Rock stated "Lefty is a Hatton fan not a boxing fan". Thats bullshit. Thats like saying Danny G is only a Cotto fan or ds91 just a Hopkins fan just because we have our favourites. Why don't I have an account on the Hatton forum ?? I'm also a massive David Haye fan. I'm even a big Amir Khan fan (Though his opposition sometimes irritates me) and I'm a Michael Katsidis fan. Ask ICB me and him had a big debate over who has the better record, Khan or Froch. That comment from JT wound me up but I'm over it now. I know I dislike Mayweather but I admire his skill and respect his game, I've said that a couple of times before.

Hey man, I didnt say anything different than what people were already implying... You can be wound up all you want bro, but the proof is in the pudding and is the general consensus of your peers

The thread isint hidden anyone can read it and draw there own conclusion, but I think most will see the consistency in the theme and CONSTRUCTIVE crticism toward you

Say what you want man but I know myself I ain't just a Hatton fan. End Of.

It is what it is man

[Thread Stealer]

It's a little annoying when people "hate on" fighters by using poor logic and bad comparisons.

I personally don't like Lennox Lewis, but people will say stuff like "he can't be great because he avoided a Vitali rematch" when greater fighters in the past avoided rematches to actual controversial fights. And they didn't retire, they kept fighting and didn't give those guys rematches.

Or when people knock fighters like Roy Jones or Floyd Mayweather, they'll use poor logic like "a true great cares about legacy and not money". Yeah boy, that Sugar Ray Robinson, he sure didn't care about money, it was all legacy for him.

[Fenster]

Some of the "haters" are the most fun to argue with.. especially when you checkmate them

This place would boring if everyone agreed.. or .. everyone settled their differences like sensible adults

[:::PSL:::]

Some of the "haters" are the most fun to argue with.. especially when you checkmate them

This place would boring if everyone agreed.. or .. everyone settled their differences like sensible adults

It just sucks when arguements go way out line... Like name calling, throwing race in the conversation, steoreotypes, and personal attack with family members, etc.

[C-Lo]

Some of the "haters" are the most fun to argue with.. especially when you checkmate them

This place would boring if everyone agreed.. or .. everyone settled their differences like sensible adults

It just sucks when arguements go way out line... Like name calling, throwing race in the conversation, steoreotypes, and personal attack with family members, etc.

OH MAN! You beat me to it! I was going to say the exact same thing! Debates and arguments are a part of forums, but keep it on topic.

Though no one has said this to me yet, "you don't know boxing," "only a real boxing fan could see," "my boxing knowledge is much greater." I think that's so insulting. People join this forum because they love to talk about boxing, want to find out about boxing stories, and/or learn more about the sport. I admit, I'm not an all-knowing, but I know enough about it that I can post my thoughts and defend my statements. This is about opinions and just because one sees it one way doesn't mean everyone HAS to see it the same.

ALSO! I hate it when people stereotype others by their favorite fighters. I find myself having to always throw a disclaimer everytime I talk about Pacquiao. I've been into boxing way before his time as a fighter. I don't want to have to but I feel people will just label me a "Pacfan" just because my profile pic has him on it.

[Fenster]

Some of the "haters" are the most fun to argue with.. especially when you checkmate them

This place would boring if everyone agreed.. or .. everyone settled their differences like sensible adults

It just sucks when arguements go way out line... Like name calling, throwing race in the conversation, steoreotypes, and personal attack with family members, etc.

Yeah that stuff is taking it too far.. but most of the morons that take threads in that direction get flushed anyway.. the ones that don't, ignore them.

[Thread Stealer]

Some of the "haters" are the most fun to argue with.. especially when you checkmate them

This place would boring if everyone agreed.. or .. everyone settled their differences like sensible adults

Sometimes it's fun to "hate", to see what kind of excuses and nonsense people will come up with to defend their fighters.

Some of my favorites:

"Trinidad only lost to Hopkins because of 9/11"
"Vitali's eye was cut because Lewis probably tampered with the gloves"
"Prime Lewis never could have beaten Vitali"
"Almost all of the ringside press said De La Hoya was robbed against Mosley!!"
"Wlad's loss to Sanders was not brutal, because it was a TKO and not a KO. A TKO can't be brutal"
"Wlad only lost to Brewster because he was poisoned"
"You just bash Vitali because of racial hatred"

[killersheep]

It does bother me when people talk poorly of my favorite fighter especially when they call him chinny. But I just gotta remember they probably haven't ever seen him fight. Plus i don't get much support because I am the only one here that has him as a favorite.

For those of you that don't know my favorite fighter is Jhonny Gonzalez.

I think the easiest people to upset are the Hatton fans, there are a lot of them and they are not all like this.

And to see where I stand on this for the most debated fights.

Hatton vs. Tszyu - Good win for Hatton, feel he got some help from the ref, but he did exactly what he needed to do and overtook the best 140 lber in the game.

Hatton vs. Castillo - Castillo was washed up, you can't deny this he looked horrible against Ngoudjo and got gifted a decision.

Hatton vs. Collazo - Had even rounds 6-6 Hatton wons cause of the knockdown in round one. Even match IMO told me that Hatton should have stayed at 140 (I understand the prefight politics led to him fighting at 147). If Collazo would have gone offensive more, I think he could have at least knocked Hatton down.

Hatton vs. Mayweather - Hatton gave a good account of himself, had the ref working against his style in the first round, but he did what he could and I respect that.

Hatton vs. Lazcano - This fight was almost all Hatton, Lazcano caught him good a few times, but Hatton recovered quickly, it did show however a little slowing in Hatton's handspeed and put a big red 'X' where Hatton is vulnerable to the left hook. Still a good win for his fans.

Calzaghe vs. Lacy - Lacy was overhyped, America was desperate for a hero at 168 and so he was put in that position. If Lacy had a chance to get a few more fights under his belt particularly against someone with handspeed he may have learned more, but he was outclassed before the first bell rang.

Calzaghe vs. Kessler - This is where Joe got my respect he fought the guy rated right behind him, a solid fundamentals boxer, that had enough power to actually hurt Calzaghe and enough skill to put that into motion. Calzaghe really impressed that night, adapting to Kess pushing him out of his comfort zone and dominating the championship rounds.

Calzaghe vs. Hopkins - Hopkins lost this fight more than Joe won IMO not trying to take anything away from Calzaghe he did exactly what he needed to do press the action and keep those flurries flying. Hopkins has to realize he can't win with that output, no judge in their right mind is going to say he's luring him and one of these times he'll hit him, i'll give him that round. Good fight and good name to go on Joe's resume.