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    Default Re: Hatton is lucky he never made it past Mayweather

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    Bah Mayweather is smaller than Hatton naturally... look where they started their careers. Mayweather uses his great spead and defensive skills to compete at WW and LMW, but he isn't a natural WW at all. Who cares at 140? Cotto hasn't foughten there in years, and if Hatton had beaten MAyweather the fight would have been at 147... its like saying Roy Jones Jr would have beaten ALi at 175 after Ali came back after his 3 year ban. THere is no way ALi would have been able to make it back down, just like it would be impossible for Cotto to make 140 now. He's a lot bigger physically than he was at 140, and he's older by a few years.
    I don't think Mayweather is naturally smaller than Hatton. I think Mayweather started off in the lower weights mainly because he was under-nourished. Over the years he's filled out and gained sized without a problem.

    People make the mistake of thinking Hatton is huge, because of how much he weighs in between fights. The reality is, he only adds fat. He doesn't have to lose muscle mass to reach 140. That's why he loses weight quite easily.

    Hatton doesn't have the core strength to compete at 147. Core strength is very important. Mayweather obviously does.

    Cotto would crush Hatton at 147. Hatton would be too much at 140 (even if they fought 2 years ago).

    That's rediculous that MAyweather fought at lower weights because he was undernourished... He fought at lower weights after making millions. He isn't like DLH who has a really big frame, look how muscular Mayweather is now, he had to add on a lot of weight to get up here. Hatton weighed 160 when he fought Collazo on fight night, and thats how much Mayweather weighs inbetween fights. Obviously Hatton doesn't stay in the best shape inbetween fights, but he is thicker than MAyweather, and naturally a stouter, stronger guy.
    Ricky relies on physical strength and power. Floyd relies on speed and skill. Because of his style, and because he's so good with that style, Floyd can fight naturally bigger men. You're correct, Ricky is naturally stronger and stouter, but Floyd has decent reach, even at WW. Ricky has bad reach even for a LWW.

    That was a silly statement the Mayweather was undernourished. Where did that come from?

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    Default Re: Hatton is lucky he never made it past Mayweather

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    I don't think Mayweather is naturally smaller than Hatton. I think Mayweather started off in the lower weights mainly because he was under-nourished. Over the years he's filled out and gained sized without a problem.

    People make the mistake of thinking Hatton is huge, because of how much he weighs in between fights. The reality is, he only adds fat. He doesn't have to lose muscle mass to reach 140. That's why he loses weight quite easily.

    Hatton doesn't have the core strength to compete at 147. Core strength is very important. Mayweather obviously does.

    Cotto would crush Hatton at 147. Hatton would be too much at 140 (even if they fought 2 years ago).

    That's rediculous that MAyweather fought at lower weights because he was undernourished... He fought at lower weights after making millions. He isn't like DLH who has a really big frame, look how muscular Mayweather is now, he had to add on a lot of weight to get up here. Hatton weighed 160 when he fought Collazo on fight night, and thats how much Mayweather weighs inbetween fights. Obviously Hatton doesn't stay in the best shape inbetween fights, but he is thicker than MAyweather, and naturally a stouter, stronger guy.
    Ricky relies on physical strength and power. Floyd relies on speed and skill. Because of his style, and because he's so good with that style, Floyd can fight naturally bigger men. You're correct, Ricky is naturally stronger and stouter, but Floyd has decent reach, even at WW. Ricky has bad reach even for a LWW.

    That was a silly statement the Mayweather was undernourished. Where did that come from?
    Heard it quoted quite a few times. Even by his uncle once.

    And to be honest i agree.

    Look at his reach for example. Like you said, even at 147 he has a decent reach. Don't know that many natural 130lb fighters with that sort of reach. He's filled out no problem and walks round at 155 very comfortably. He hasn't exactly added loads of muscle mass.

    Under-nourished doesn't mean he was some starving euthiopian kid. It just means he didn't consume enough calories (or his metabalism allowed him to burn them off so quickly) to reach his genetically determined weight.....untill he got a bit older.

    Another example is Manny Pacquiao.

    Obviously Mayweather's style has also helped him move up the weights without much problems also.

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