Quote Originally Posted by danne__
no kickboxing is worse trust me :P
no mate trust me it isnt.
i am a member of a kickboxing club, i have done vale tudo and muay thai, karate, tang sou dao and ju jitsu and the harshest one i have come across is boxing

perhaps in your club they dont do what we do, but when we spar its full power, any punches for 5 rounds.
we even put the vasalene round our eyes, and have round times.
you might be new to your club, so you may be sparring technically/lightly, but once you get good youll be fighting hard every session