To Me IF Floyd is Retired Joe Calzaghe is PFP#1

[JT Rock]

Again he is undefeated and Lineal undisputed champion of 2 divisions, with no one close to making a claim in either division.... as lwell as being a champ since you been 5 Lefty

[leftylee]

Again he is undefeated and Lineal undisputed champion of 2 divisions, with no one close to making a claim in either division.... as lwell as being a champ since you been 5 Lefty

I knew age would come into this

Undefeated maybe, but he has fought ONE serious threat, Kessler. Beating Mikkel Kessler doesn't make you number 1 P4P.

[JT Rock]

Again he is undefeated and Lineal undisputed champion of 2 divisions, with no one close to making a claim in either division.... as lwell as being a champ since you been 5 Lefty

I knew age would come into this

Undefeated maybe, but he has fought ONE serious threat, Kessler. Beating Mikkel Kessler doesn't make you number 1 P4P.

I wasnt goofing your age I was helping you appreciate his longevity... Again Joe has had a great career... The Lacy Talk is all your opinion, Lacy was recognized #2 SM in the world regardless of Hype... Calzaghe has beaten everybody that was put in front of him, not to mention most were picking Hopkins over Calzaghe, so its easy to throw the age of Hopkins into it but he beat him and took his goods... Again everyone likes to kiss Pacs ass but no one brings to the equation how Shopworn Morales and Barrera were..

How many Prime superstars has Pac fault, besides JMM the 1st time in which he squeaked a BS draw?

[leftylee]

Again he is undefeated and Lineal undisputed champion of 2 divisions, with no one close to making a claim in either division.... as lwell as being a champ since you been 5 Lefty

I knew age would come into this

Undefeated maybe, but he has fought ONE serious threat, Kessler. Beating Mikkel Kessler doesn't make you number 1 P4P.

I wasnt goofing your age I was helping you appreciate his longevity... Again Joe has had a great career... The Lacy Talk is all your opinion, Lacy was recognized #2 SM in the world regardless of Hype... Calzaghe has beaten everybody that was put in front of him, not to mention most were picking Hopkins over Calzaghe, so its easy to throw the age of Hopkins into it but he beat him and took his goods... Again everyone likes to kiss Pacs ass but no one brings to the equation how Shopworn Morales and Barrera were..

How many Prime superstars has Pac fault, besides JMM the 1st time in which he squeaked a BS draw?

Lets turn that question around, how many prime superstars (besides Kessler) has Calzaghe fought ?? (Please don't say Sakio Bika is a superstar coz he won The Contender).

BS draw ?? if it weren't for one bullshit judge Pac would have got the verdict in the first fight.

Having Calzaghe P4P #1 is almost embarrasing as a fan. The guy slaps like a lil girl, this is boxing were you punch.

[Bomp]

I knew age would come into this

Undefeated maybe, but he has fought ONE serious threat, Kessler. Beating Mikkel Kessler doesn't make you number 1 P4P.

I wasnt goofing your age I was helping you appreciate his longevity... Again Joe has had a great career... The Lacy Talk is all your opinion, Lacy was recognized #2 SM in the world regardless of Hype... Calzaghe has beaten everybody that was put in front of him, not to mention most were picking Hopkins over Calzaghe, so its easy to throw the age of Hopkins into it but he beat him and took his goods... Again everyone likes to kiss Pacs ass but no one brings to the equation how Shopworn Morales and Barrera were..

How many Prime superstars has Pac fault, besides JMM the 1st time in which he squeaked a BS draw?

Lets turn that question around, how many prime superstars (besides Kessler) has Calzaghe fought ?? (Please don't say Sakio Bika is a superstar coz he won The Contender).

BS draw ?? if it weren't for one bullshit judge Pac would have got the verdict in the first fight.

Having Calzaghe P4P #1 is almost embarrasing as a fan. The guy slaps like a lil girl, this is boxing were you punch.

I'm a Calzaghe fan, but I give Manny the edge due to his superior competition. That doesn't mean to say that Lefty's arguments aren't pretty pathetic, you can take apart any guys record when you start dismissing opponents, it would be easy to claim out of the three mexicans Manny beat, the only one who was remotely near his best at the time was Morales in their first fight, but such a claim wouldn't be remotely true and just plain disrespectful to a future legend in Manny.

BTW you left out THE no.1 UNDISPUTED padded record of sports network and that's your boy Hatton.

[Preme]

Simple as this, pac was not the beter fighter/boxer in his last fight, so thee is no fucking way he is the p4p #1 full stop.

people have liked him coz he is good to watch, period.

[Dark Lord Al]

Simple as this, pac was not the beter fighter/boxer in his last fight, so thee is no fucking way he is the p4p #1 full stop.

people have liked him coz he is good to watch, period.

Calzaghe wasnt the better fighter/boxer in his last fight either , he was just busier , cos Hopkins was 43 years old.

[southakron314]

Pacman travels and wins. He beats p4p greats in great fashion. He is number 1. Cotto to me is number two. Calzaghe is tied for thrid with Pavlik.

[solid]

either Joe Calzaghe, cotto, or pac man r next in line...