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In my personal opinion for what ever it is worth, If Floyd does or does not retire really matters none to the sport.
He does not take the top fights of significance. I am sorry but his fight with Oscar really meant nothing to the landscape of the sport. It was more out of interest then anything. The title was vacated almost immediately and Oscar really did not defend it anyhow.
Floyd does not fight the top or should I say most dangerous guys in the game. Yes Hatton was ranked P4P top 10 at the time but fact is it did little to the landscape of the sport. Hatton was going back to 140 win or lose. Again the fight perked interest but did little for the sport as a whole.
I think the top man in the sport should be fighting the top contenders on his heels. That means in his division. It does not mean novelty bouts and that is how you can class the ODH and Hatton bouts.
Miguel Cotto is fighting the best he can, Antonio Margarito is fighting the best he can. Wlad Klitschko is doing his best to unify. Manny Pacquiao has fought the best for several years now and has even sought out a new division of bigger men to help improve his stature and the sports scenery.
Floyd Mayweather has talked a lot and played dress up with the WWE. He even likes to have us think the KO over the Big Show was legit instead if just entertainment value.
As far as I am concerned good riddance to him. He is like a little kid looking for attention. Retire don't retire. Make up your mind instead of just making statement s to see if you will be missed and then try to make a dramatic return to the sport.
Floyd is ranked the best but in truth when was the last time he fought the best?
Hatton's speed presented an unprecedented scenario for Mayweather. Hatton was situation Mayweather hasn't delt with before, but Cotto isn't the first slow pressure guy Mayweather fought, and while Castillo who was similar to Cotto gave Mayweather a hard time, I feel that Cotto doesn't have the same level of chin to walk in like Castillo did.
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darnit... I knew if I used Floyd as the example it would turn into a thread purely about Floyd..
I'm wondering when YOU guys prefer/like to see a fighter to retire... There are plenty of threads that discuss whether Floyd is will be back or not...
And I agree with everyones comments on that subject.
Well of course as a fan of the sport I want to see great fighters keep going, but who the hell am I to tell anyone what to do with their life? Good on him(or any fighter) if he doesn't want to fight anymore, from anyone but the fans standpoint it's obviously much better for a fighter to retire while they still have it, because otherwise they risk losing it, and yet still fighting on sustaining unneccesary punishment. It's kind of a dumb question you pose, what do WE prefer. Of course people who like boxing want to see great fights get made.. But what Floyd meant by not wanting the sport to retire him, doesn't just mean once he loses... It means he doesn't want to retire because he finds out the hard way that he has to, win or lose. Not that I think he's anywhere near that point, but I don't know how he feels about the sport, and I have no reason to. I don't think he really does plan on retiring, personally I feel it's a ploy to get more money.. But if it isn't, sucks for the boxing fans. But why the hell would a fighter care what fans think, if he no longer has a passion to box anyways?
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That's a good example.... I think there wasn't many more questions to be asked of Lennox, and that makes it a lot easier on fans I think...
I always think it's stupid how fighters say "I've got nothing more to prove in boxing".. Seriously, who gets in to boxing (or any sport) to "Prove" something??
Fighters continue on and take challenges, for the love of the sport.. Not to prove something![]()
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I think a fighter does owe something to his fans. To boxing fans in general. If he is driving a fancy car, and parks it in a big garage in a big house, who do you think helped make that happen?
When the issue gets brought into the topic of retirement, the line often becomes blurred, because as boxing fans it is hard to discern when is enough.
It is a tricky blend for the successful boxer to have both satisfied the fans and made his mark on the boxing world to the best of his ability, and being able to walk away gracefully. Why? Well, that is when it gets put back on us, the fan, and not so much the fighter. We ultimately will decide how we remember that person, their last fight, their last 4 fights, their beginning, and eventually their entire career. In this sport, one fight, on one night, can drastically change our perception. So we factor all of that in with the many other variables, how they conduct themselves etc, and we somehow need to ask ourselves, has it been enough? Am I okay with them saying, "Thanks fans, it's been great but I need to call it a day."
And so we count on the fighter making a decision that most of us will be okay with. Then if we can look at it objectively and honestly we won't ask more from our heros then what we are due. Then hopefully most of us will respect their decision.
This certainly isn't going to happen all the time, simply too many variables. But it is a thing of beauty when it does happen. And it is a big part I believe of why we are here, and we cheer our heros, and we argue, about who's better and why, and their legacies. We are all ultimately trying to sort it out for the history of our fighters, and the history of our sport.
That's my take on it, anyway.
Last edited by Youngblood; 06-08-2008 at 02:05 PM.
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