An excellent way to shut up Carl Froch

[RozzySean]

If Calzaghe ends up fighting Jones, Pavlik should go to Sheffield and KO Froch in his own backyard. That will shut his big mouth about wanting to fight Calzaghe and be a good tuneup at 168 for Pavlik. He get him some experience fighting in the UK to help him for a future Joe C showdown if it happens in Millenium. I would pay good money to see this.

WELL I CAN TELL YOU THIS , IF PAVLIK DOES GO TO SHEFFIELD HE WONT FIND CARL FROCH THERE BECAUSE HE IS FROM NOTTINGHAM !!!!

That's a very good point. He might find Ryan Rhodes there tho.

To be honest Froch has the power to KO Pavlik. Froch is a big super middle weight and it would be interesting to see how Pavlik deals with his power and how much of an effect Pav's punches have on Froch (who has a very good chin imo).

We need to get some perspective on Pavlik. He isn't super man. He looked good last night against a sitting duck of an opponent who pretty much had no gameplan. He can be hurt. I just hope people don't start with the Pavlik's invincible talk. He's very good at what he does and he's very effective but he's also very beatable.

And have perspective on Froch. He's never beaten anybody, he's technically flawed, and that low left invites disaster from Pavlik. Pavlik isn't superman, but he is a technically superior fighter who would throw straight punches right between Froch's wide, looping shots. Pavlik has beaten Edison Miranda and Jermaine Taylor twice. I would favor either of those fighters against Froch. Froch beat a shot Robin Reid. Pavlik is two inches taller with equal reach. There isn't much size difference.

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WELL I CAN TELL YOU THIS , IF PAVLIK DOES GO TO SHEFFIELD HE WONT FIND CARL FROCH THERE BECAUSE HE IS FROM NOTTINGHAM !!!!

That's a very good point. He might find Ryan Rhodes there tho.

To be honest Froch has the power to KO Pavlik. Froch is a big super middle weight and it would be interesting to see how Pavlik deals with his power and how much of an effect Pav's punches have on Froch (who has a very good chin imo).

We need to get some perspective on Pavlik. He isn't super man. He looked good last night against a sitting duck of an opponent who pretty much had no gameplan. He can be hurt. I just hope people don't start with the Pavlik's invincible talk. He's very good at what he does and he's very effective but he's also very beatable.

And have perspective on Froch. He's never beaten anybody, he's technically flawed, and that low left invites disaster from Pavlik. Pavlik isn't superman, but he is a technically superior fighter who would throw straight punches right between Froch's wide, looping shots. Pavlik has beaten Edison Miranda and Jermaine Taylor twice. I would favor either of those fighters against Froch. Froch beat a shot Robin Reid. Pavlik is two inches taller with equal reach. There isn't much size difference.

I agree that Pavlik's resume is streets ahead of Froch's and Froch's low left could spell disaster.

But Froch is naturally very big. Probably bigger framed then Pavlik. Naturally stronger as wel. I think he would have the edge in power personally. People will disagree as Pavlik has a lot of power. I think Froch probably has a stronger chin aswel.

Not saying those advantages mean Froch would win, just don't think the fight would be a forgone conclusion.

[Memphis]

Im with the minority that think Froch would spark Pavlik. I'd be more confident of Froch beating Pavlik than I would Calzaghe, its a timing thing.

[RozzySean]

That's a very good point. He might find Ryan Rhodes there tho.

To be honest Froch has the power to KO Pavlik. Froch is a big super middle weight and it would be interesting to see how Pavlik deals with his power and how much of an effect Pav's punches have on Froch (who has a very good chin imo).

We need to get some perspective on Pavlik. He isn't super man. He looked good last night against a sitting duck of an opponent who pretty much had no gameplan. He can be hurt. I just hope people don't start with the Pavlik's invincible talk. He's very good at what he does and he's very effective but he's also very beatable.

And have perspective on Froch. He's never beaten anybody, he's technically flawed, and that low left invites disaster from Pavlik. Pavlik isn't superman, but he is a technically superior fighter who would throw straight punches right between Froch's wide, looping shots. Pavlik has beaten Edison Miranda and Jermaine Taylor twice. I would favor either of those fighters against Froch. Froch beat a shot Robin Reid. Pavlik is two inches taller with equal reach. There isn't much size difference.

I agree that Pavlik's resume is streets ahead of Froch's and Froch's low left could spell disaster.

But Froch is naturally very big. Probably bigger framed then Pavlik. Naturally stronger as wel. I think he would have the edge in power personally. People will disagree as Pavlik has a lot of power. I think Froch probably has a stronger chin aswel.

Not saying those advantages mean Froch would win, just don't think the fight would be a forgone conclusion.

Disagree that Pavlik has much power? 30 KO's out of 32 wins, including Miranda, Taylor, Zertuche, and Mckart. Oh, and Lockett, too, I guess. How can we know if Froch has more power or a better chin when he's never fought anybody decent? Even if Froch has more power, Pavlik's jab is miles head and would be able to keep Froch off him.

I don't think Froch is terrible. He has some physical tools and some skills, but he punches very wide and he's pretty sloppy. I don't think he's fast and slick enough to get away with that low hand crap against world class opposition like Pavlik, Miranda, or Kessler. Pavlik has some flaws, but he's a much more complete fighter.

I agree that his would be a great fight while it lasts. Froch would certainly have the power to hurt Pavlik if he let himself get caught.