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    Default Re: De La Hoya wants Cotto for his one, last fight

    Not saying Margarito is or is not a better fighter then Cotto but I will say he is a more Dangerous opponent for Oscar. Especially the way he has performed his last 2 fights. Tony is a stand up fighter who throws straight punches and likes to bang. He also is taller then DLH with the same reach.

    Cotto is smaller with a 6" less reach it would be a much easier fight for Oscar to stay outside away from danger.

    Though Cotto is a murderous body puncher and Oscar does not like to be hit in the body.

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    Default Re: De La Hoya wants Cotto for his one, last fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Put Em' Up View Post
    Not saying Margarito is or is not a better fighter then Cotto but I will say he is a more Dangerous opponent for Oscar. Especially the way he has performed his last 2 fights. Tony is a stand up fighter who throws straight punches and likes to bang. He also is taller then DLH with the same reach.

    Cotto is smaller with a 6" less reach it would be a much easier fight for Oscar to stay outside away from danger.

    Though Cotto is a murderous body puncher and Oscar does not like to be hit in the body.
    Margarito can't a straight punch to save his life, as you will see on July 26, Cotto throws much tighter, sharper punches, and IMO hits harder. Cotto is a much better boxer, and he is a much better body puncher. I think Cotto poses a way bigger problem for Oscar than Margarito would.

    The thing I think that makes OScar not want to fight MArgarito, and I am not sure if everyone knows this is that Margarito used to be Oscar's sparring partner, and so what is the point in fighting a guy who you didn't really have that much of a problem with. Oscar is always searching for the most difficult fight, most interesting fight he can, and thats why he wants Cotto.

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    Default Re: De La Hoya wants Cotto for his one, last fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Put Em' Up View Post
    Not saying Margarito is or is not a better fighter then Cotto but I will say he is a more Dangerous opponent for Oscar. Especially the way he has performed his last 2 fights. Tony is a stand up fighter who throws straight punches and likes to bang. He also is taller then DLH with the same reach.

    Cotto is smaller with a 6" less reach it would be a much easier fight for Oscar to stay outside away from danger.

    Though Cotto is a murderous body puncher and Oscar does not like to be hit in the body.
    Margarito can't a straight punch to save his life, as you will see on July 26, Cotto throws much tighter, sharper punches, and IMO hits harder. Cotto is a much better boxer, and he is a much better body puncher. I think Cotto poses a way bigger problem for Oscar than Margarito would.

    The thing I think that makes OScar not want to fight MArgarito, and I am not sure if everyone knows this is that Margarito used to be Oscar's sparring partner, and so what is the point in fighting a guy who you didn't really have that much of a problem with. Oscar is always searching for the most difficult fight, most interesting fight he can, and thats why he wants Cotto.

    Yeah sure, Margarito would not be mcuh of a problem, that has to be the reason. He is certainly no Stevie Forbes thats for sure

    According to this slide show Margarito has quite a few straight punches with power behind them

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=Eu6XEYOdKXg
    Maybe he has a different 42 fight resume that you have seen I have not?

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    Default Re: De La Hoya wants Cotto for his one, last fight

    I should refraise what I said, Margarito couldn't throw a good straight punch if his life depended on it. His jab is slow, I have no idea why CIntron had such a terrible time dealing with it, and his cross ... don't even get me started. His hooks are wider than the moon's orbit. The only "straightish" punch, and the only punch I see him being effective with is his uppercuts. Thats his bread and butter, and thats the best punch he can land.

    ALso who has Margarito foughten, and beaten besides Clottey(who was beating him before he broke his hand)? Kermit Cintron? AM has proven less in the boxing world than Mayweather has proven in the MMA world. Regardless everything that he does that gives Cotto problems will not give Oscar problems, Oscar is taller, faster than Cotto, and he is far too slick, fast, skilled for a guy like Margarito to beat him, just look at Mayorga for evidence. This type of fighter isn't a challenge for Oscar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    I should refraise what I said, Margarito couldn't throw a good straight punch if his life depended on it. His jab is slow, I have no idea why CIntron had such a terrible time dealing with it, and his cross ... don't even get me started. His hooks are wider than the moon's orbit. The only "straightish" punch, and the only punch I see him being effective with is his uppercuts. Thats his bread and butter, and thats the best punch he can land.

    ALso who has Margarito foughten, and beaten besides Clottey(who was beating him before he broke his hand)? Kermit Cintron? AM has proven less in the boxing world than Mayweather has proven in the MMA world. Regardless everything that he does that gives Cotto problems will not give Oscar problems, Oscar is taller, faster than Cotto, and he is far too slick, fast, skilled for a guy like Margarito to beat him, just look at Mayorga for evidence. This type of fighter isn't a challenge for Oscar.
    You should have refraised that? You just did and it is still the same reply you put the first time. I am pretty sure in that slide show I see more then just Cintron getting caught with straight punches.

    The reason Cintron had such a hard time with Margarito is because the guy is a brutal fighter who will beat you up if you slip just a tad bit. From your post on this topic it sounds as if you are bitter about the guy. Who was the fighter you were once high on that he beat? Was it Cintron?

    You keep your opinion and Ill keep mine. I will say this for anyone to use the arguement that a two time power punching iron jawed world champion would not be a challenge as a point of debate really does not come across as valid.

    But each to their own
    Last edited by Put Em' Up; 06-15-2008 at 01:57 AM.

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    Default Re: De La Hoya wants Cotto for his one, last fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Put Em' Up View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    I should refraise what I said, Margarito couldn't throw a good straight punch if his life depended on it. His jab is slow, I have no idea why CIntron had such a terrible time dealing with it, and his cross ... don't even get me started. His hooks are wider than the moon's orbit. The only "straightish" punch, and the only punch I see him being effective with is his uppercuts. Thats his bread and butter, and thats the best punch he can land.

    ALso who has Margarito foughten, and beaten besides Clottey(who was beating him before he broke his hand)? Kermit Cintron? AM has proven less in the boxing world than Mayweather has proven in the MMA world. Regardless everything that he does that gives Cotto problems will not give Oscar problems, Oscar is taller, faster than Cotto, and he is far too slick, fast, skilled for a guy like Margarito to beat him, just look at Mayorga for evidence. This type of fighter isn't a challenge for Oscar.
    You should have refraised that? You just did and it is still the same reply you put the first time. I am pretty sure in that slide show I see more then just Cintron getting caught with straight punches.

    The reason Cintron had such a hard time with Margarito is because the guy is a brutal fighter who will beat you up if you slip just a tad bit. From your post on this topic it sounds as if you are bitter about the guy. Who was the fighter you were once high on that he beat? Was it Cintron?

    You keep your opinion and Ill keep mine. I will say this for anyone to use the arguement that a two time power punching iron jawed world champion would not be a challenge as a point of debate really does not come across as valid.

    But each to their own
    Hey Put Em Up , i think the reason Cintron had hard time with Margaro is because he was a real Moron and Brutal to do the same Stupid fight , his Brain dont give enough for fallow instruction to accept and see the reality that Margaro is more Superior than him at power level.........
    He should know that................

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    Default Re: De La Hoya wants Cotto for his one, last fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Macho View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Put Em' Up View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    I should refraise what I said, Margarito couldn't throw a good straight punch if his life depended on it. His jab is slow, I have no idea why CIntron had such a terrible time dealing with it, and his cross ... don't even get me started. His hooks are wider than the moon's orbit. The only "straightish" punch, and the only punch I see him being effective with is his uppercuts. Thats his bread and butter, and thats the best punch he can land.

    ALso who has Margarito foughten, and beaten besides Clottey(who was beating him before he broke his hand)? Kermit Cintron? AM has proven less in the boxing world than Mayweather has proven in the MMA world. Regardless everything that he does that gives Cotto problems will not give Oscar problems, Oscar is taller, faster than Cotto, and he is far too slick, fast, skilled for a guy like Margarito to beat him, just look at Mayorga for evidence. This type of fighter isn't a challenge for Oscar.
    You should have refraised that? You just did and it is still the same reply you put the first time. I am pretty sure in that slide show I see more then just Cintron getting caught with straight punches.

    The reason Cintron had such a hard time with Margarito is because the guy is a brutal fighter who will beat you up if you slip just a tad bit. From your post on this topic it sounds as if you are bitter about the guy. Who was the fighter you were once high on that he beat? Was it Cintron?

    You keep your opinion and Ill keep mine. I will say this for anyone to use the arguement that a two time power punching iron jawed world champion would not be a challenge as a point of debate really does not come across as valid.

    But each to their own
    Hey Put Em Up , i think the reason Cintron had hard time with Margaro is because he was a real Moron and Brutal to do the same Stupid fight , his Brain dont give enough for fallow instruction to accept and see the reality that Margaro is more Superior than him at power level.........
    He should know that................

    I agree, not too mention Cintron is not a mentally tough fighter so once things got heated the first fight started to flash back in his eyes.

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