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lol one rip outta all the posts aint bad TM. its progress.

well anyways..Thunder you dont got a trainer??
To the best of my knowledge, he has no trainer, has never formally trained, and has never fought as an amateur. Decided to go pro one day and signed himself up and here is the obvious results.

I wouldn't mind seeing Andrew get training. As in, walk his ass into a gym there 3 + times a week for something other then making a tape for youtube. Not only do I think it will help with some technique, but I think it will help him gain some respect for the sport.

But you are here now Andrew, so let us see if you are sincere about wanting help, or just wanting to promote more of the same thing that got you talked about for what I think are the wrong reasons in boxing.

Ball is in your court.
I've seen footage of Hartley sparring in Gyms, he's had like 14 pro fights or something... all but 2 of them losses but 14 pro fights at the end of the day.

I think you're confusing him with Zelenoff... he's literally only lost to Hartley and that is it... no real training, no previous fights etc

Hartley seems to have put a bit more work in than Zelenoff (can't say how much) he just doesn't seem extremely talented... but hey... he's in the right place... if he listens and works at it he can improve, the same as any one else.