Who was it from the WNF crew that said Powell looked high? You were right!!

[donnydarkoIRL]

You have got to be kidding. Weed cannot help you fight, that is just stupid hitmandonny. Please tell me I have just taken the bait......

The amount of nervous energy expended before a fight limits a boxers energy reserve within the fight.

If someone could find a way to completely relax before a fight (Hearns used massage,) you save truckloads of energy which can be employed in the ring.

[bikersk]

You have got to be kidding. Weed cannot help you fight, that is just stupid hitmandonny. Please tell me I have just taken the bait......

The amount of nervous energy expended before a fight limits a boxers energy reserve within the fight.

If someone could find a way to completely relax before a fight (Hearns used massage,) you save truckloads of energy which can be employed in the ring.

Um yes but good training - experience - good prep - good fight day routine would be a better solution than smoking weed surely. It affects your co-ordination, perception, emotional experience and in some people triggers psychosis. Why would any athelete want to smoke weed in prep for competition? I remember a fight from my high school, one guy who was considered to be a real tough guy (had many brothers in the school who were older and considered tough too). He would fight regularly at school and after school at a designated venue. He won a lot of fights but always smoked weed before a fight thinking it would help him relax and take the pain out of the hits he took. He took on a younger guy one day after school at an agreed venue and he was not too bad a fighter for someone without too much training. The other guy was 2 years younger ( at that stage of high school it's important due to physical development) and could fight just ok too. He was a bit taller and the tough guy had a few cones before the fight and the other guy didnt - the fight started - both hit each other with some good shots after about 1- 2 minutes, then the guy who hadn't smoked kept the pace the same but the "tough" guy started to fade and look vague, well he got hit with some big shots and stopped the fight and left even though he was a better fighter and should have beat the guy fairly easy and would have if he didn't smoke. It does not help you fight - shit what a ramble!!

[donnydarkoIRL]

The more that a fighter trains the moire nerves affect them.
If a fighter has in=vested months of their lives in the fight and sacrificed all his comforts, he becomes extremely nervy before the fight.

From my limited knowledge of the drug it does efect the user in all the ways you have mentioned, however as I mentioned, if taken at correct times it could be used for this purpose. It may not be ideal, but I can envisage an athlete with poor guidance using the drug to calm nerves before a fight.

As your story suggested any foreign substance alters the body and pretty much negates training that has been done, but if a fighter were to kill the nerves, by whatever means in the hours coming up to the fight and was given back his "senses" before the figjht it would be an excelent method.

Drugs aren't uncommon in boxing, so many boxers take cocaine for confidence once their careers end.

[bikersk]

The more that a fighter trains the moire nerves affect them.
If a fighter has in=vested months of their lives in the fight and sacrificed all his comforts, he becomes extremely nervy before the fight.

From my limited knowledge of the drug it does efect the user in all the ways you have mentioned, however as I mentioned, if taken at correct times it could be used for this purpose. It may not be ideal, but I can envisage an athlete with poor guidance using the drug to calm nerves before a fight.

As your story suggested any foreign substance alters the body and pretty much negates training that has been done, but if a fighter were to kill the nerves, by whatever means in the hours coming up to the fight and was given back his "senses" before the figjht it would be an excelent method.

Drugs aren't uncommon in boxing, so many boxers take cocaine for confidence once their careers end.

Yeah good point. But the problem is IF and WAS. I dont think ex-fighters take cocaine for confidence, no sucessful pro fighter lacks confidence.

AND the fact that drugs aren't uncommon in boxing is a problem. When your kids are ready hitmandonny do you want them to do a sport that has a drug culture or one that doesn't?

[donnydarkoIRL]

Yeah good point. But the problem is IF and WAS. I dont think ex-fighters take cocaine for confidence, no sucessful pro fighter lacks confidence.

AND the fact that drugs aren't uncommon in boxing is a problem. When your kids are ready hitmandonny do you want them to do a sport that has a drug culture or one that doesn't?

Well Bruno as an example took cocaine throughout his career, for confidence boosting reasons. Apparantly that was the explnanation for his brave showing against Tyson the second time.

Joe Louis took Cocaine after his retirement.
Again...I have limited knowledge, but I believe it's for that "invincible feeling" that both cocaine and boxing victories are famed for.
(I should have clarified that better actually confidence/exhilaration.)

Oh absolutley, I hate drugs personally. I've worked in several gyms in drug estates trying to introduce boxing, but when I left the clubs just collapsed, which is pretty disappointing. As a whole I think boxing is relatively clean, but I do feel such cases as these need to be dealt with firmly in ordr to stamp out similar cases.

The reason I stuck o my original point is because during training we have been approached a number of times in a study asking how we quench nerves in order to reatain energy. Its a real study that some people are chasing answers too as it could prove highly beneficial in not only boxing, but all sports and pursuits.

[bikersk]

Yeah good point. But the problem is IF and WAS. I dont think ex-fighters take cocaine for confidence, no sucessful pro fighter lacks confidence.

AND the fact that drugs aren't uncommon in boxing is a problem. When your kids are ready hitmandonny do you want them to do a sport that has a drug culture or one that doesn't?

Well Bruno as an example took cocaine throughout his career, for confidence boosting reasons. Apparantly that was the explnanation for his brave showing against Tyson the second time.

Joe Louis took Cocaine after his retirement.
Again...I have limited knowledge, but I believe it's for that "invincible feeling" that both cocaine and boxing victories are famed for.
(I should have clarified that better actually confidence/exhilaration.)

Oh absolutley, I hate drugs personally. I've worked in several gyms in drug estates trying to introduce boxing, but when I left the clubs just collapsed, which is pretty disappointing. As a whole I think boxing is relatively clean, but I do feel such cases as these need to be dealt with firmly in ordr to stamp out similar cases.

The reason I stuck o my original point is because during training we have been approached a number of times in a study asking how we quench nerves in order to reatain energy. Its a real study that some people are chasing answers too as it could prove highly beneficial in not only boxing, but all sports and pursuits.

Ok wow thanks for your honesty Hitmandonny. I doubt Joe Louis took cocaine for confidence, he took it after his retirement..... he didn't take it when he fought - BIG difference. Taking drugs when you are not an athelete means nothing to me. Make your own decisions,

[donnydarkoIRL]

Ok wow thanks for your honesty Hitmandonny. I doubt Joe Louis took cocaine for confidence, he took it after his retirement..... he didn't take it when he fought - BIG difference. Taking drugs when you are not an athelete means nothing to me. Make your own decisions,

No I can't see Joe as a user during his peak years, he was a well documented champ and physically he seemed far too unblemished to have been a user.

I honestly can now see the signs in Bruno looking back in retrospect.
Perhaps Tyson also

[zaazusmiles]

moral lesson: don't take the pee test.

[Mar]

I wanna talk shit....but i know my black ass wouldn't pass a pee test right now either.

[CutMeMick]

I wanna talk shit....but i know my black ass wouldn't pass a pee test right now either.

That makes 2 of us...

The fucked up part with me is they test us at work randomly.

(But I'm cool with the Office Mngr. so she never picks my name )