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    Default Re: Somebody bought a little something something with them tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    He's def. got the goods. There is no denying that BUT we gotta look at the opposition he has faced.

    You talk about how Cotto would react to Bertos assault but a street runs two ways. How would Berto react to Cottos body assault? How would Berto react to Cottos jab.

    Until I see Berto beat a top 10 WW, I really wont be convinced.

    Believe me JT I've made that mistake before where I hype up a prospect because he's blowing past opponents without REALLY looking at the big picture. The last fighter I did that with was "Panchito" Bojado and I made a promise that I wouldn't do that again.

    Berto still has things to prove for me.


    But that's just me...
    I here you..Floyd gave Berto a little gift tonight and its up to him to prove he deserves to keep it...

    In your opinion who is the next logical opponent for Berto... I say Williams since he is the only one really with a clear schedule
    For me I would say in this order:

    1. The winner of Zab vs. Clottey
    2. Collazo
    3. SSM
    4. Isaac Hlatswayo
    5. Jackson Osei Bonsu
    6. Jesus Soto Karass

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    You infer all this from fighting Miguel Rodriguez JT? That seems a bit odd. I like Berto too but who knows about his defense because of this fight? I mean Rodriguez just was no threat offensively at all. Saying he's as dangerous as Cotto is how the hype gets out of hand.

    I'm still not sure how much of his KO's are a result of power and not handspeed. I want to see him with a top 10 welterweight at this point or at least someone who poses a threat without jumping up to far. Going for Mosley would just be a nightmare for Berto imo, I think that's a terrible style match up. Berto actually reminds me a lot of a young Mosley but that's to much to soon imo. I would have to pick even a past best Mosley.

    Maybe Paul Williams, that's an interesting one but Collazo, Cintron, Baldomir ect. would be better because despite holding a belt, Berto isn't top tier yet. This division is absolutely stacked, way to stacked to move up before you're ready.

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    Default Re: Somebody bought a little something something with them tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    You infer all this from fighting Miguel Rodriguez JT? That seems a bit odd. I like Berto too but who knows about his defense because of this fight? I mean Rodriguez just was no threat offensively at all. Saying he's as dangerous as Cotto is how the hype gets out of hand.

    I'm still not sure how much of his KO's are a result of power and not handspeed. I want to see him with a top 10 welterweight at this point or at least someone who poses a threat without jumping up to far. Going for Mosley would just be a nightmare for Berto imo, I think that's a terrible style match up. Berto actually reminds me a lot of a young Mosley but that's to much to soon imo. I would have to pick even a past best Mosley.

    Maybe Paul Williams, that's an interesting one but Collazo, Cintron, Baldomir ect. would be better because despite holding a belt, Berto isn't top tier yet. This division is absolutely stacked, way to stacked to move up before you're ready.
    How about the winner of Zab-Clottey?

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    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    You infer all this from fighting Miguel Rodriguez JT? That seems a bit odd. I like Berto too but who knows about his defense because of this fight? I mean Rodriguez just was no threat offensively at all. Saying he's as dangerous as Cotto is how the hype gets out of hand.

    I'm still not sure how much of his KO's are a result of power and not handspeed. I want to see him with a top 10 welterweight at this point or at least someone who poses a threat without jumping up to far. Going for Mosley would just be a nightmare for Berto imo, I think that's a terrible style match up. Berto actually reminds me a lot of a young Mosley but that's to much to soon imo. I would have to pick even a past best Mosley.

    Maybe Paul Williams, that's an interesting one but Collazo, Cintron, Baldomir ect. would be better because despite holding a belt, Berto isn't top tier yet. This division is absolutely stacked, way to stacked to move up before you're ready.
    Nope Amat been open about my support for Berto well over a year and have kept my zeal under check but have made it known... I'm far from a jonny come lately bandwagoner.. I feel good following him since he was a green prospect similiar to Lacy... Berto showed patience which is a virtue lacking in a young speedster with power...

    I actually think Mosely would be a great matchup for Berto... I can see Shane get beaten to the punch and out of Machoness trying to retaliate and leaving to many holes for Berto to fill...Mosely can take a shiit load of punishment but I feel like this point in his career he has to slow down...

    I guess I am being premature here on handing over the Welterweight division to him, but that kind of skill, speed,power,balance and evolving defense is something special and you cant ignore the 800 lb gorilla in the room you guys cant kid yourself and think that any of the top guys havent taken notice of Berto.... He's coming!!!

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    Default Re: Somebody bought a little something something with them tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    You infer all this from fighting Miguel Rodriguez JT? That seems a bit odd. I like Berto too but who knows about his defense because of this fight? I mean Rodriguez just was no threat offensively at all. Saying he's as dangerous as Cotto is how the hype gets out of hand.

    I'm still not sure how much of his KO's are a result of power and not handspeed. I want to see him with a top 10 welterweight at this point or at least someone who poses a threat without jumping up to far. Going for Mosley would just be a nightmare for Berto imo, I think that's a terrible style match up. Berto actually reminds me a lot of a young Mosley but that's to much to soon imo. I would have to pick even a past best Mosley.

    Maybe Paul Williams, that's an interesting one but Collazo, Cintron, Baldomir ect. would be better because despite holding a belt, Berto isn't top tier yet. This division is absolutely stacked, way to stacked to move up before you're ready.
    Nope Amat been open about my support for Berto well over a year and have kept my zeal under check but have made it known... I'm far from a jonny come lately bandwagoner.. I feel good following him since he was a green prospect similiar to Lacy... Berto showed patience which is a virtue lacking in a young speedster with power...

    I actually think Mosely would be a great matchup for Berto... I can see Shane get beaten to the punch and out of Machoness trying to retaliate and leaving to many holes for Berto to fill...Mosely can take a shiit load of punishment but I feel like this point in his career he has to slow down...

    I guess I am being premature here on handing over the Welterweight division to him, but that kind of skill, speed,power,balance and evolving defense is something special and you cant ignore the 800 lb gorilla in the room you guys cant kid yourself and think that any of the top guys havent taken notice of Berto.... He's coming!!!
    He has a lot of ability to work with, for sure - but I'm a little nervous about him grabbing a title too soon. I'd love to see him get in some more work before gunning for one of the big boys.

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