Thread for CFH/BoxingGorilla/Bilbo and any others

[Kev]

Cool, you actually been out there working then Donny?

What a horrible world that must have been back then to be a slave, forced to wear an iron collar.

[donnydarkoIRL]

I'm working on the Quantity Surveying team, so I was out on site when it was just greenfields.
When the feedback came back about the discovery the price obviously escalated, but I haven't been on site.
I will visit though as it's only 5-6 miles from my home.

[CFH]

That is so cool!

Someday soon (relatively speaking) I hope to be working on sites like that. I don't know a ton about Celtic archaeology, but the small amount I do know is fascinating. I remember learn about Maiden Castle, and how one of the archaeologists was able to reconstruct portion of a battle that took place there. There are a few really neat Native defensive sites in the city where I live, they haven't been excavated or anything, but they're well documented and if you know what you're looking for you can see them.

This may sound slightly morbid, but I'd love to take a closer look at the skeleton. I wonder if that massive hole in the side of the skull caused her death or if it was a postmortem injury.

I'll try and post some pics of the site I'll be working on over the summer when I get back, provided the Band whose land it is gives me permission.

One thing I found really interesting in your post is that you mention that the land value went up, the exact opposite would be true here most of the time. Here, if a site/feature/tiny artifact is found on a property, the cost of excavation etc. falls on the land owner. They're legally obligated to report such things, but most often they do not because of the associated expenses. Stiff penalties are supposed to occur, but they never happen. The town I live in is built on top of hundreds of sites, but no one really gives a shit. I think that this is probably due to the fact that the sites are Native, and thus of little interest to us white people. There are places in Oak Bay, a rich, snobby, old-money sort of place where people have literally used the stones from Native burial cairns to line their driveways... I'll stop ranting now.

Thanks for posting these Donny.

[donnydarkoIRL]

That is so cool!

Someday soon (relatively speaking) I hope to be working on sites like that. I don't know a ton about Celtic archaeology, but the small amount I do know is fascinating. I remember learn about Maiden Castle, and how one of the archaeologists was able to reconstruct portion of a battle that took place there. There are a few really neat Native defensive sites in the city where I live, they haven't been excavated or anything, but they're well documented and if you know what you're looking for you can see them.

This may sound slightly morbid, but I'd love to take a closer look at the skeleton. I wonder if that massive hole in the side of the skull caused her death or if it was a postmortem injury.

I'll try and post some pics of the site I'll be working on over the summer when I get back, provided the Band whose land it is gives me permission.

One thing I found really interesting in your post is that you mention that the land value went up, the exact opposite would be true here most of the time. Here, if a site/feature/tiny artifact is found on a property, the cost of excavation etc. falls on the land owner. They're legally obligated to report such things, but most often they do not because of the associated expenses. Stiff penalties are supposed to occur, but they never happen. The town I live in is built on top of hundreds of sites, but no one really gives a shit. I think that this is probably due to the fact that the sites are Native, and thus of little interest to us white people. There are places in Oak Bay, a rich, snobby, old-money sort of place where people have literally used the stones from Native burial cairns to line their driveways... I'll stop ranting now.

Thanks for posting these Donny.

No bother mate.

I love a bit of history, I'll actually try grab some more now.

In my area there are dozens of remaining crannogs, brilliant stuff!

[donnydarkoIRL]

I came across another archaeological find over the weekend.

The find occured when a hill was being excavated. As the hill was being excavated, the team uncovered what appeared to be a body standing up.
The initial investigation was launched so as to ascertain why a body was buried in a standing position and it was thought that some Celtic soldiers were buried standing to attention.

However a carbon test revealed the remains to be a lot older and revealed their own story.

The remains arethought to be that off the original Irish people. A mysterious race that little is known about. They either integrated with the Celts or we're exterminated thousands of years ago.
They came ito conflict with the arriving Celts and as the Celts were more aggressive or war competent, they were forced to live on the backfoot.

In this particular scenario, the remains are supposed to be that of a man who dug a small tunnel into the side of the hill (maybe twelve feet in. He then made a chamber in which he could stand and dwell for a short period of time. He would reside here while being chased and attempt to draw his pursuers into the cavern. As they would follow him crawling he would then stab them in the neck as the crawled into the cavern which he would have entered earlier.
IUt is supposed that this man was either suffocated through the use of smoke or the entrance was blocked, serving him a torturous death.
Lovely.

[CFH]

I came across another archaeological find over the weekend.

The find occured when a hill was being excavated. As the hill was being excavated, the team uncovered what appeared to be a body standing up.
The initial investigation was launched so as to ascertain why a body was buried in a standing position and it was thought that some Celtic soldiers were buried standing to attention.

However a carbon test revealed the remains to be a lot older and revealed their own story.

The remains arethought to be that off the original Irish people. A mysterious race that little is known about. They either integrated with the Celts or we're exterminated thousands of years ago.
They came ito conflict with the arriving Celts and as the Celts were more aggressive or war competent, they were forced to live on the backfoot.

In this particular scenario, the remains are supposed to be that of a man who dug a small tunnel into the side of the hill (maybe twelve feet in. He then made a chamber in which he could stand and dwell for a short period of time. He would reside here while being chased and attempt to draw his pursuers into the cavern. As they would follow him crawling he would then stab them in the neck as the crawled into the cavern which he would have entered earlier.
IUt is supposed that this man was either suffocated through the use of smoke or the entrance was blocked, serving him a torturous death.
Lovely.

Did they describe the evidence that lead them to this conclusion?

[donnydarkoIRL]

I came across another archaeological find over the weekend.

The find occured when a hill was being excavated. As the hill was being excavated, the team uncovered what appeared to be a body standing up.
The initial investigation was launched so as to ascertain why a body was buried in a standing position and it was thought that some Celtic soldiers were buried standing to attention.

However a carbon test revealed the remains to be a lot older and revealed their own story.

The remains arethought to be that off the original Irish people. A mysterious race that little is known about. They either integrated with the Celts or we're exterminated thousands of years ago.
They came ito conflict with the arriving Celts and as the Celts were more aggressive or war competent, they were forced to live on the backfoot.

In this particular scenario, the remains are supposed to be that of a man who dug a small tunnel into the side of the hill (maybe twelve feet in. He then made a chamber in which he could stand and dwell for a short period of time. He would reside here while being chased and attempt to draw his pursuers into the cavern. As they would follow him crawling he would then stab them in the neck as the crawled into the cavern which he would have entered earlier.
IUt is supposed that this man was either suffocated through the use of smoke or the entrance was blocked, serving him a torturous death.
Lovely.

Did they describe the evidence that lead them to this conclusion?

Carbon dating...to confirm timescale obviously.
I think bone fragments were taken and found to differ from typical Celtic makeup, decisively proving that it was of the ancient Irish.
Irish Folklore gave mention of men disappering into hills, I believe there were similar cases in Meath...

After that I'm afraid I'm unsure

[boozeboxer]

I came across another archaeological find over the weekend.

The find occured when a hill was being excavated. As the hill was being excavated, the team uncovered what appeared to be a body standing up.
The initial investigation was launched so as to ascertain why a body was buried in a standing position and it was thought that some Celtic soldiers were buried standing to attention.

However a carbon test revealed the remains to be a lot older and revealed their own story.

The remains arethought to be that off the original Irish people. A mysterious race that little is known about. They either integrated with the Celts or we're exterminated thousands of years ago.
They came ito conflict with the arriving Celts and as the Celts were more aggressive or war competent, they were forced to live on the backfoot.

In this particular scenario, the remains are supposed to be that of a man who dug a small tunnel into the side of the hill (maybe twelve feet in. He then made a chamber in which he could stand and dwell for a short period of time. He would reside here while being chased and attempt to draw his pursuers into the cavern. As they would follow him crawling he would then stab them in the neck as the crawled into the cavern which he would have entered earlier.
IUt is supposed that this man was either suffocated through the use of smoke or the entrance was blocked, serving him a torturous death.
Lovely.

That would be impressive even for a hobbit. HA ha. does anyone remember the story about the guy in Kansas who was tired of taxes or his house burned down (I cant remember the reason) but he lived in a big hole in the ground.