Chazz and me

[jmbtandy]

Agreed Chazz has some abilities, and sometimes it takes a loss or two to realise the sacrifices you have to make to really make it in this sport.

For example - Don't slate me for harping on about Yusaf Mack, but it is a similar example, he was a badly prepared, didn't train hard enough weight drained Super Middleweight he lost a couple of fights because of this, believe it or not he is a talented guy but had spent much of his career slacking off relying on his natural ability and the guys around him telling him he was the best. Yes I came in and made changes, yes i told him if he wanted to be the best he had a lot of work ahead of him etc, but he had to want to make the sacrifices, a trainer can't give a fighter desire, those loses made Yusaf take a long look at himself and now he is one of the most dedicated guys around, you have to keep an eye on him over training now. He does what he is asked to do and pushes himself, I didn't know him before the losses, but I can't imagine he would have had the same dedication before. He will never lose a fight again being badly prepared or unfit, if he loses he will lose because the guy opposite him is a better fighter.

Maybe Chazz will be in the same boat, he has been carried to a decent record and in his first step up in class he fell well short. hopefully if he really has the desire to make it in the sport he will make changes and dedicate himself the way he needs to if he is going to more than a nearly man. He needs to be told some home truths and work hard then work his way back, I think the same will happen to Arreola as well to be honest in time.

[Gemandad]

You can say what you want but Witherspoon has been surviving on his name alone, now he has been exposed as a weak chinned, poor heavyweight. He will go on to win another 10 fights against bums they be stepped up again and will be knocked out again. Doesn't matter what he does you can't teach a Muppet how to be a world champion. And this guy that goes on about Yusaf Mack, look forward that defeat it is coming soon, sod bad preparation, he is just a muppet as well, the game is flooded with guys who think they are something even when they get sparked a few times by other bums it still doesn't click. Stop wasting your breath !!!

[The Fightfan]

Even if he still lost, I think Witherspoon could have had a better showing. He's much too slow in the ring, too bulky. You can look at him and see he could easily shed 15 lbs and probably keep the power he rarely displays. The guy can box, he just got stormed by someone jumping on top of his head and not letting up. If he tighted up his defense and took off some of that weight (and maybe learned how to clinch) he could cruise by a flabby-flab-flab like Arreola. As it stood neither guy would do well against top level competition.

You know what's funny him and I were weighing in the same time he was 235 and I was 238 that was May 20th through June 6th. He said he didn't even start his roadwork like I said earlier. He came into the gym one last time on June 11th and was 232 lbs. The next time I seen him was in the ring on Saturday and he was what 220 lbs.Something tells me I think he was a little drained,and left the fight on the road.He just didn't look like the same counterpunching machine I seen in the gym.This is why I had such high hopes. I thought a brawler like Arreola would never do what he did on Saturday.IMO it was an easy win by simply counterpunching Arreola to hell and back.

[The Fightfan]

You can say what you want but Witherspoon has been surviving on his name alone, now he has been exposed as a weak chinned, poor heavyweight. He will go on to win another 10 fights against bums they be stepped up again and will be knocked out again. Doesn't matter what he does you can't teach a Muppet how to be a world champion. And this guy that goes on about Yusaf Mack, look forward that defeat it is coming soon, sod bad preparation, he is just a muppet as well, the game is flooded with guys who think they are something even when they get sparked a few times by other bums it still doesn't click. Stop wasting your breath !!!

I must ask my friend do you have personal issues at home.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

You can say what you want but Witherspoon has been surviving on his name alone, now he has been exposed as a weak chinned, poor heavyweight. He will go on to win another 10 fights against bums they be stepped up again and will be knocked out again. Doesn't matter what he does you can't teach a Muppet how to be a world champion. And this guy that goes on about Yusaf Mack, look forward that defeat it is coming soon, sod bad preparation, he is just a muppet as well, the game is flooded with guys who think they are something even when they get sparked a few times by other bums it still doesn't click. Stop wasting your breath !!!

I must ask my friend do you have personal issues at home.

LOL...

[Gemandad]

HA HA NOT THAT I AM AWARE OF, Do you have issues in life that you feel the need to post your fat ass next to a crap pro boxer that just beat the shit out of you in 1st gear?

[killersheep]

HA HA NOT THAT I AM AWARE OF, Do you have issues in life that you feel the need to post your fat ass next to a crap pro boxer that just beat the shit out of you in 1st gear?

Witherspoon isn't nearly as bad as you make him out to be. Arreola ain't exactly a soft puncher. Personally I am glad that he posted his picture with an undefeated HW prospect and got the oppotunity and learning experience from it. I actually appreciate that he thinks enough of the board to share his experience with us. You on the other hand slate a young fighter, who has had a loss to one of the hardest hitting HW the US has produced in the past 5 years and immediately write him off. This is boxing people get knocked out, I have a hard time slating anyone that has the balls to get in the ring and risk their health for our entertainment, Witherspoon definately has talent and didn't get the name recognition without it.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

HA HA NOT THAT I AM AWARE OF, Do you have issues in life that you feel the need to post your fat ass next to a crap pro boxer that just beat the shit out of you in 1st gear?

No worries Fightfan... This guy is a wind-up artist that just tries to get a rise out of people... He passes himself off as a boxing genius that boxes for a living but will tell no one out of where... He's a fraud.

My guess is he's never been in a ring so if I were you I'd not take him very seriously...

[Gemandad]

HA HA NOT THAT I AM AWARE OF, Do you have issues in life that you feel the need to post your fat ass next to a crap pro boxer that just beat the shit out of you in 1st gear?

Witherspoon isn't nearly as bad as you make him out to be. Arreola ain't exactly a soft puncher. Personally I am glad that he posted his picture with an undefeated HW prospect and got the oppotunity and learning experience from it. I actually appreciate that he thinks enough of the board to share his experience with us. You on the other hand slate a young fighter, who has had a loss to one of the hardest hitting HW the US has produced in the past 5 years and immediately write him off. This is boxing people get knocked out, I have a hard time slating anyone that has the balls to get in the ring and risk their health for our entertainment, Witherspoon definately has talent and didn't get the name recognition without it.

He hasn't he is living off the memory of Tim Witherspoon

[Gemandad]

HA HA NOT THAT I AM AWARE OF, Do you have issues in life that you feel the need to post your fat ass next to a crap pro boxer that just beat the shit out of you in 1st gear?

No worries Fightfan... This guy is a wind-up artist that just tries to get a rise out of people... He passes himself off as a boxing genius that boxes for a living but will tell no one out of where... He's a fraud.

My guess is he's never been in a ring so if I were you I'd not take him very seriously...

You lot started the insults, believe what you want, i came here for a bit of banter it's you lot who wanted to know about ring experience, really couldn't care less - TRUTH HURTS SOMETIMES

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

HA HA NOT THAT I AM AWARE OF, Do you have issues in life that you feel the need to post your fat ass next to a crap pro boxer that just beat the shit out of you in 1st gear?

No worries Fightfan... This guy is a wind-up artist that just tries to get a rise out of people... He passes himself off as a boxing genius that boxes for a living but will tell no one out of where... He's a fraud.

My guess is he's never been in a ring so if I were you I'd not take him very seriously...

You lot started the insults, believe what you want, i came here for a bit of banter it's you lot who wanted to know about ring experience, really couldn't care less - TRUTH HURTS SOMETIMES

It must hurt... Like the truth that I'm slapping you around like a ragdoll in the other thread... Kinda like that?

[Gemandad]

No worries Fightfan... This guy is a wind-up artist that just tries to get a rise out of people... He passes himself off as a boxing genius that boxes for a living but will tell no one out of where... He's a fraud.

My guess is he's never been in a ring so if I were you I'd not take him very seriously...

You lot started the insults, believe what you want, i came here for a bit of banter it's you lot who wanted to know about ring experience, really couldn't care less - TRUTH HURTS SOMETIMES

It must hurt... Like the truth that I'm slapping you around like a ragdoll in the other thread... Kinda like that?

Ha ha yeah if you think you are doing that, slapping around in a forum Ha ha you're a joke

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

You lot started the insults, believe what you want, i came here for a bit of banter it's you lot who wanted to know about ring experience, really couldn't care less - TRUTH HURTS SOMETIMES

It must hurt... Like the truth that I'm slapping you around like a ragdoll in the other thread... Kinda like that?

Ha ha yeah if you think you are doing that, slapping around in a forum Ha ha you're a joke

Yeah well hop back into that thread and "school" me some more, champ

[Gemandad]

It must hurt... Like the truth that I'm slapping you around like a ragdoll in the other thread... Kinda like that?

Ha ha yeah if you think you are doing that, slapping around in a forum Ha ha you're a joke

Yeah well hop back into that thread and "school" me some more, champ

Which one?

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Ha ha yeah if you think you are doing that, slapping around in a forum Ha ha you're a joke

Yeah well hop back into that thread and "school" me some more, champ

Which one?

**pats on the shoulder** anyone you want champ... you're doing so well