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    Default Re: Nate Campbell-Joan Guzman "all but set"

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Guzman is the best Lightweight at the moment and i would pick him to beat everyone at Lightweight including Pacquiao, a fight with Marquez would be a pick em though.
    i really don't get why? what has he done anyways? plus his like 35 now and he hasn't fought at lightweight. its insulting to casa and nate. Not so for JMM and Pac cause they too haven't fought at the weight, and those two are the two best at the weight guzman formerly was. Not even just two of the best in a weight class but maybe top two p4p fighter right now and I aint seen guzman scrape top ten at the least p4p ranking.

    I think you guys should reconsider about guzman being the best at lightweight, imo his likely to end up smashed up by the other top fighters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Guzman is the best Lightweight at the moment and i would pick him to beat everyone at Lightweight including Pacquiao, a fight with Marquez would be a pick em though.
    i really don't get why? what has he done anyways? plus his like 35 now and he hasn't fought at lightweight. its insulting to casa and nate. Not so for JMM and Pac cause they too haven't fought at the weight, and those two are the two best at the weight guzman formerly was. Not even just two of the best in a weight class but maybe top two p4p fighter right now and I aint seen guzman scrape top ten at the least p4p ranking.

    I think you guys should reconsider about guzman being the best at lightweight, imo his likely to end up smashed up by the other top fighters.
    What is it insulting to Casa or Nate ?? its purely my opinion that skill wise he is the best whats wrong in that ?? he has one of the quickiest hands, he reminds me of Mayweather especially with the shoulder roll, he has the quickiest feet. And boxing skills wise he is right up there with the very best at the moment, i know your not high on Guzman but i am and i will for certain bet that Guzman beats Pacquiao if that fight happens.

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    Default Re: Nate Campbell-Joan Guzman "all but set"

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Guzman is the best Lightweight at the moment and i would pick him to beat everyone at Lightweight including Pacquiao, a fight with Marquez would be a pick em though.
    i really don't get why? what has he done anyways? plus his like 35 now and he hasn't fought at lightweight. its insulting to casa and nate. Not so for JMM and Pac cause they too haven't fought at the weight, and those two are the two best at the weight guzman formerly was. Not even just two of the best in a weight class but maybe top two p4p fighter right now and I aint seen guzman scrape top ten at the least p4p ranking.

    I think you guys should reconsider about guzman being the best at lightweight, imo his likely to end up smashed up by the other top fighters.
    What is it insulting to Casa or Nate ?? its purely my opinion that skill wise he is the best whats wrong in that ?? he has one of the quickiest hands, he reminds me of Mayweather especially with the shoulder roll, he has the quickiest feet. And boxing skills wise he is right up there with the very best at the moment, i know your not high on Guzman but i am and i will for certain bet that Guzman beats Pacquiao if that fight happens.
    well its because casa and nate are legit lightweights that has cement accomplishments, ok then its just your oppinion like you said. Plus i am sure you will bet guzman will beat pac 90% of the time you pick pacs oppenent

    Im gonna go watch more of guzman, but i would never compare him to floyd. Floyd by 28 had accomplished ten times more then guzman has up to this point right now. Skill wise, i think its just a case of fans of floyds style being high on it but yet on an older less known fighter and less than half the accomplishment of the original floyd. it will end as soon as he steps up his level of oppenent, unlike floyd.

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    Default Re: Nate Campbell-Joan Guzman "all but set"

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    i really don't get why? what has he done anyways? plus his like 35 now and he hasn't fought at lightweight. its insulting to casa and nate. Not so for JMM and Pac cause they too haven't fought at the weight, and those two are the two best at the weight guzman formerly was. Not even just two of the best in a weight class but maybe top two p4p fighter right now and I aint seen guzman scrape top ten at the least p4p ranking.

    I think you guys should reconsider about guzman being the best at lightweight, imo his likely to end up smashed up by the other top fighters.
    What is it insulting to Casa or Nate ?? its purely my opinion that skill wise he is the best whats wrong in that ?? he has one of the quickiest hands, he reminds me of Mayweather especially with the shoulder roll, he has the quickiest feet. And boxing skills wise he is right up there with the very best at the moment, i know your not high on Guzman but i am and i will for certain bet that Guzman beats Pacquiao if that fight happens.
    well its because casa and nate are legit lightweights that has cement accomplishments, ok then its just your oppinion like you said. Plus i am sure you will bet guzman will beat pac 90% of the time you pick pacs oppenent

    Im gonna go watch more of guzman, but i would never compare him to floyd. Floyd by 28 had accomplished ten times more then guzman has up to this point right now. Skill wise, i think its just a case of fans of floyds style being high on it but yet on an older less known fighter and less than half the accomplishment of the original floyd. it will end as soon as he steps up his level of oppenent, unlike floyd.
    The only fighters i picked against Pacquiao was Barrera and that was because i was being loyal fan, i even stated before the fight that i thought Pacquiao would win. And the other one was Marquez based on a bad style match up for Pacquiao and he did come very close to beating Pac and i had Marquez winning by 1 point. Like i already said to Pacstraightleft i don't dislike Pacquiao i like his style but i believe Guzman is a bad style match up for him, but so is Casamayor and so is Campbell. But i think Pacquiao beats every other Lightweight without hesistation except those 3 names which are pick em fights based on styles.

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    Default Re: Nate Campbell-Joan Guzman "all but set"

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post

    What is it insulting to Casa or Nate ?? its purely my opinion that skill wise he is the best whats wrong in that ?? he has one of the quickiest hands, he reminds me of Mayweather especially with the shoulder roll, he has the quickiest feet. And boxing skills wise he is right up there with the very best at the moment, i know your not high on Guzman but i am and i will for certain bet that Guzman beats Pacquiao if that fight happens.
    well its because casa and nate are legit lightweights that has cement accomplishments, ok then its just your oppinion like you said. Plus i am sure you will bet guzman will beat pac 90% of the time you pick pacs oppenent

    Im gonna go watch more of guzman, but i would never compare him to floyd. Floyd by 28 had accomplished ten times more then guzman has up to this point right now. Skill wise, i think its just a case of fans of floyds style being high on it but yet on an older less known fighter and less than half the accomplishment of the original floyd. it will end as soon as he steps up his level of oppenent, unlike floyd.
    The only fighters i picked against Pacquiao was Barrera and that was because i was being loyal fan, i even stated before the fight that i thought Pacquiao would win. And the other one was Marquez based on a bad style match up for Pacquiao and he did come very close to beating Pac and i had Marquez winning by 1 point. Like i already said to Pacstraightleft i don't dislike Pacquiao i like his style but i believe Guzman is a bad style match up for him, but so is Casamayor and so is Campbell. But i think Pacquiao beats every other Lightweight without hesistation except those 3 names which are pick em fights based on styles.
    fair enough.

    I don't consider guzman much of a threat, im more worried about casa's power/slickness and nates experience beating pac.

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    Default Re: Nate Campbell-Joan Guzman "all but set"

    Guzman don't carry no weight to the negotiation table. That's why he can be AVOIDED by the "stars".. and why he got his title robbed off him messing about trying to defend in Scotland.

    Like Ice.. I too would back Guzman all day long to beat Pac. Fact.

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    Default Re: Nate Campbell-Joan Guzman "all but set"

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    Default Re: Nate Campbell-Joan Guzman "all but set"

    Guzman could and would. His best wins were against a gatekeeper(Barrios) and a contender (Sotto)

    Guzman is a great fighter by potential not by accomplishment.

    beat Campbell (Impressively)and have a better chance of landing pac.

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    Default Re: Nate Campbell-Joan Guzman "all but set"

    A chess match like battle. I think a seasoned fighter like campbell can pull it off. I don't discredit guzmans skill and talent but he never fought A-class type fighter above 122 division thats why he looks good on those fights. wonder if he fought the marquez, barreras, morales or pacs in the 126 or 130. and keep in mind 0 KO since leaving 122. If campbell can deal juan diaz power i think he can deal guzmans as well. and i don't think juan diaz is less talented than guzman. Guzman speed is good but he is no PBF. He barely beat Sotto in his last fight. Again talk is cheap in boxing. Another "ifs" and "buts"... Lets just wait the result and we'll see who fights next who.

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