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    Default Re: Nate Campbell-Joan Guzman "all but set"

    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    OK I'm in some bizarro world I think right now. I'm a big Casamayor fan but he's an absolute shell of what he used to be. Am I the only one who remembers him dropping nearly every round to Santa Cruz? Santa Cruz? He was losing on the scorecards to the very unskilled Michael Katsidis. He's a shell who is one or two fights away from being retired or irrelevant in the lightweight division.

    Guzman however is in his prime and is one of the most talented fighters on the planet. That's how he's the much bigger threat to Pac.
    casa should of well damn lose that fight with santa cruz but remember he was coming off a long lay off, im not making any excuses but thats true. in the katsidis fight he showed his power is still there and he still can be slick.

    My point is, this guzman talk is unproven cause he hasnt impress me. Whos his biggest win and in what fasion? He has skills but imo is overhype. Plus his already mid 30's not only is he overhype imo, he can turn 50 over night any time now without power to save his ass. Unlike casa old as well but experienced with top fighter and he has power to end a fight still. and thats why i think his the bigger threat to pac and maybe the best lw right now til jmm and pac test the waters in the division.

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    Default Re: Nate Campbell-Joan Guzman "all but set"

    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    OK I'm in some bizarro world I think right now. I'm a big Casamayor fan but he's an absolute shell of what he used to be. Am I the only one who remembers him dropping nearly every round to Santa Cruz? Santa Cruz? He was losing on the scorecards to the very unskilled Michael Katsidis. He's a shell who is one or two fights away from being retired or irrelevant in the lightweight division.

    Guzman however is in his prime and is one of the most talented fighters on the planet. That's how he's the much bigger threat to Pac.
    casa should of well damn lose that fight with santa cruz but remember he was coming off a long lay off, im not making any excuses but thats true. in the katsidis fight he showed his power is still there and he still can be slick.

    My point is, this guzman talk is unproven cause he hasnt impress me. Whos his biggest win and in what fasion? He has skills but imo is overhype. Plus his already mid 30's not only is he overhype imo, he can turn 50 over night any time now without power to save his ass. Unlike casa old as well but experienced with top fighter and he has power to end a fight still. and thats why i think his the bigger threat to pac and maybe the best lw right now til jmm and pac test the waters in the division.
    I'll tell you what, come back after the Campbell fight and after he beats the lightweight champ. If he beats him but I think he will. Will you still say he's not a threat? And he's facing a greater threat at lightweight times 10 then Pac is. Who cares what his age his? He debuted 2 years after Pacquiao, has a lot less ring wear too. He doesn't have half as many fights as Casa considering Casa's amateur career in Cuba. He's obviously still got the legs so what's the problem?

    But hey, if the fights took place on Boxrec Pac would win any day. I have some mean things to say but I'll save them.

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    Default Re: Nate Campbell-Joan Guzman "all but set"

    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    OK I'm in some bizarro world I think right now. I'm a big Casamayor fan but he's an absolute shell of what he used to be. Am I the only one who remembers him dropping nearly every round to Santa Cruz? Santa Cruz? He was losing on the scorecards to the very unskilled Michael Katsidis. He's a shell who is one or two fights away from being retired or irrelevant in the lightweight division.

    Guzman however is in his prime and is one of the most talented fighters on the planet. That's how he's the much bigger threat to Pac.
    casa should of well damn lose that fight with santa cruz but remember he was coming off a long lay off, im not making any excuses but thats true. in the katsidis fight he showed his power is still there and he still can be slick.

    My point is, this guzman talk is unproven cause he hasnt impress me. Whos his biggest win and in what fasion? He has skills but imo is overhype. Plus his already mid 30's not only is he overhype imo, he can turn 50 over night any time now without power to save his ass. Unlike casa old as well but experienced with top fighter and he has power to end a fight still. and thats why i think his the bigger threat to pac and maybe the best lw right now til jmm and pac test the waters in the division.
    I'll tell you what, come back after the Campbell fight and after he beats the lightweight champ. If he beats him but I think he will. Will you still say he's not a threat? And he's facing a greater threat at lightweight times 10 then Pac is. Who cares what his age his? He debuted 2 years after Pacquiao, has a lot less ring wear too. He doesn't have half as many fights as Casa considering Casa's amateur career in Cuba. He's obviously still got the legs so what's the problem?

    But hey, if the fights took place on Boxrec Pac would win any day. I have some mean things to say but I'll save them.
    if he beats nate then i will say he has proven himself, but we've been talking about the current so right now his no threat. atleast not as much of a threat. You should start praying now though cause nate is similar to guzman, both started their pro career obnormally late. But yet Nates been in far better fighters already then guzman has. taht should tell you somethings.

    tell me all the mean things youve got to say, i want to laugh

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