Pacquiao needs to step it up

[Majesty]

I could argue that Juan Manuel Marquez, Marco Antonio Barrerra and Eric Moralez are better fighters than anyone Mayweather ever faced and you would have a hard time trying to convince me otherwise.

Argue it then and I'll argue back

OK, I will bite.. Name me one fighter Mayweather faced better than Marquez.

Corrales and Castillo heck even Genaro Hernandez and Corrales are better are both better then Marquez imo.

Marquez only gets exposure for coming back against Pacquiao other then that he looked bad against Gainer and Chris John exposed how he can't come forward very well and beat him. There are people better then Marquez but he gets exposure from coming back from 3 knockdowns to nearly beat Pacquiao. Chris John beats Marquez but who fights Pacquiao again? Marquez can't seem to outbox a boxer which is something Corrales did to Casamayor the second time around and before facing Mayweather Corrales was an excellent boxer and people forget how great he was at 130 he knocked out a younger Derrick Gainer whom Marquez looked bad against even though Gainer didn't mount much offense Marquez couldn't seem to take true advantage of it and it showed some of his holes.

But go on

[Julius Rain]

pac would ktfo of chris john, john is not elite. john got a homecooking decision over jmm.

Did you actually watch the fight, jmm school chris john. john only lasted 12 cause he ran around.

[Markusdarkus]

Argue it then and I'll argue back

OK, I will bite.. Name me one fighter Mayweather faced better than Marquez.

Corrales and Castillo heck even Genaro Hernandez and Corrales are better are both better then Marquez imo.

Marquez only gets exposure for coming back against Pacquiao other then that he looked bad against Gainer and Chris John exposed how he can't come forward very well and beat him. There are people better then Marquez but he gets exposure from coming back from 3 knockdowns to nearly beat Pacquiao. Chris John beats Marquez but who fights Pacquiao again? Marquez can't seem to outbox a boxer which is something Corrales did to Casamayor the second time around and before facing Mayweather Corrales was an excellent boxer and people forget how great he was at 130 he knocked out a younger Derrick Gainer whom Marquez looked bad against even though Gainer didn't mount much offense Marquez couldn't seem to take true advantage of it and it showed some of his holes.

But go on

Dont be silly mate one more good win and Pacquaio has a better resume than Mayweather imo.

[match]

I'm not sure Pac has a better resume that Floyd at this point, but I'll admit, as a Floyd fan, if Floyd hadn't 'officially' retired I think Pac would have surpassed him in every publication as p4p #1. It's one thing to move up in weight and win titles. It's entirely another thing to move up from f@ckin' flyweight and become a lightweight champion. Not only that, the guy has knocked out just about every title holder he's faced. Pac man is THE man as far as I'm concerned. If Floyd does come back, he'll do so as #2 in my book.

[Markusdarkus]

I'm not sure Pac has a better resume that Floyd at this point, but I'll admit, as a Floyd fan, if Floyd hadn't 'officially' retired I think Pac would have surpassed him in every publication as p4p #1. It's one thing to move up in weight and win titles. It's entirely another thing to move up from f@ckin' flyweight and become a lightweight champion. Not only that, the guy has knocked out just about every title holder he's faced. Pac man is THE man as far as I'm concerned. If Floyd does come back, he'll do so as #2 in my book.

Should Pacquaio fight and beat Nate Campbell he would have beaten anything Mayweather has done.

He would be a 4 weight legit world champion not just a title holder.

Manny should try and clean out 135lbs or fight Hatton he will then prove he is willing to fight the best not just move through the weights looking to win paper titles and then claim he was champion at the weight.

All depends on what Pacquaio does next.

[Majesty]

I'm not sure Pac has a better resume that Floyd at this point, but I'll admit, as a Floyd fan, if Floyd hadn't 'officially' retired I think Pac would have surpassed him in every publication as p4p #1. It's one thing to move up in weight and win titles. It's entirely another thing to move up from f@ckin' flyweight and become a lightweight champion. Not only that, the guy has knocked out just about every title holder he's faced. Pac man is THE man as far as I'm concerned. If Floyd does come back, he'll do so as #2 in my book.

From flyweight to lightweight champion, wasn't Pacquiao starting fighting at 17 or 16 or something like that?

What about from super bantamweight to junior middleweight champion like Mayweather did?

[match]

I'm not sure Pac has a better resume that Floyd at this point, but I'll admit, as a Floyd fan, if Floyd hadn't 'officially' retired I think Pac would have surpassed him in every publication as p4p #1. It's one thing to move up in weight and win titles. It's entirely another thing to move up from f@ckin' flyweight and become a lightweight champion. Not only that, the guy has knocked out just about every title holder he's faced. Pac man is THE man as far as I'm concerned. If Floyd does come back, he'll do so as #2 in my book.

From flyweight to lightweight champion, wasn't Pacquiao starting fighting at 17 or 16 or something like that?

What about from super bantamweight to junior middleweight champion like Mayweather did?

What someone did as an amateur mean absolutely nothing as far as his pro legacy. If that were the case, we'd be including what all these guy's did when they started boxing at the age of 7 or 8 as most of them did. Floyd began his pro career as a jr. lightweight. Pac began his pro career at a weight that was less than most bulemic supermodels. I'm not crapping on Floyd b/c IMO he's the greatest fighter I've seen in my era, but Pac rose up from the middle earth hobbit weight classes and has cemented himself as a legitamate lightweight champion. That's pretty impressive IMO.

[Majesty]

I'm not sure Pac has a better resume that Floyd at this point, but I'll admit, as a Floyd fan, if Floyd hadn't 'officially' retired I think Pac would have surpassed him in every publication as p4p #1. It's one thing to move up in weight and win titles. It's entirely another thing to move up from f@ckin' flyweight and become a lightweight champion. Not only that, the guy has knocked out just about every title holder he's faced. Pac man is THE man as far as I'm concerned. If Floyd does come back, he'll do so as #2 in my book.

From flyweight to lightweight champion, wasn't Pacquiao starting fighting at 17 or 16 or something like that?

What about from super bantamweight to junior middleweight champion like Mayweather did?

What someone did as an amateur mean absolutely nothing as far as his pro legacy. If that were the case, we'd be including what all these guy's did when they started boxing at the age of 7 or 8 as most of them did. Floyd began his pro career as a jr. lightweight. Pac began his pro career at a weight that was less than most bulemic supermodels. I'm not crapping on Floyd b/c IMO he's the greatest fighter I've seen in my era, but Pac rose up from the middle earth hobbit weight classes and has cemented himself as a legitamate lightweight champion. That's pretty impressive IMO.

No pacquiao's been fighting that young since his pro debut. He was 17 or something when he was fighting as a pro if I remember right.

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From flyweight to lightweight champion, wasn't Pacquiao starting fighting at 17 or 16 or something like that?

What about from super bantamweight to junior middleweight champion like Mayweather did?

What someone did as an amateur mean absolutely nothing as far as his pro legacy. If that were the case, we'd be including what all these guy's did when they started boxing at the age of 7 or 8 as most of them did. Floyd began his pro career as a jr. lightweight. Pac began his pro career at a weight that was less than most bulemic supermodels. I'm not crapping on Floyd b/c IMO he's the greatest fighter I've seen in my era, but Pac rose up from the middle earth hobbit weight classes and has cemented himself as a legitamate lightweight champion. That's pretty impressive IMO.

No pacquiao's been fighting that young since his pro debut. He was 17 or something when he was fighting as a pro if I remember right.

I hear what you're saying but he was a pro then. Floyd turned pro as a jr. lightweight. All in all, they both moved up roughly 30 lbs or so, it just opens my eyes when a guy does that whose original weight was damn near only double didgets.

[amat]

Marquez looked bad against Gainer When are you going to learn to stop saying that? I'm thinking about neg repping you right now Majesty.

[Majesty]

Marquez looked bad against Gainer When are you going to learn to stop saying that? I'm thinking about neg repping you right now Majesty.

By not good I mean he didn't knock him out. Gainer fought scared and threw one punch the entire fight? Aganst someone like that someone the class of Marquez should have knocked him out.

I don't mean he looked bad as in he looked like a bum. But against someone fighting as badly as that Marquez should have knocked him out.

Read what I said "even though Gainer didn't mount much offense Marquez couldn't seem to take true advantage of it and it showed some of his holes."

[brucelee]

Marquez looked bad against Gainer When are you going to learn to stop saying that? I'm thinking about neg repping you right now Majesty.

I have just done that. Majesty is a frustrated guy and he wants to blame it on PAcquaio. MAybe he lost big time in his prediction.

[Majesty]

I have just done that. Majesty is a frustrated guy and he wants to blame it on PAcquaio. MAybe he lost big time in his prediction.

yes I really hate Pacquiao...especially when I said that number 2 p4p would be the LOWEST he would ever get to. And also in my show where is said he is on the verge of a break through in this division. Especially when I said that even if he lost no one could take away from what he's already done and 2nd p4p is the lowest he can possibly go..

Putting me as a pac hater is silly honestly.

[Julius Rain]

ok so how exactly is pac suppose to step it up? since he needs to step it up?

this thread doesn't explain itself, it just says pac needs to step it up with no facts on why he should step it up

is fighting valero a step up right now its a step down.

what about soto? thats another step down, pac would pick him apart.

Guzman? is he a step up, to some since they believe in him but after pac breaks him down fact will show why guzman never got to the elite matchup cause his not at all a step up.

I can't believe anybody would suggest fighting mab twice, eric 3x and jmm twice, still requires stepping up. well to who? the others are unproven and those three are the top proven featherweights pac can possibly fight. this thread is rediculous.

[brucelee]

ok so how exactly is pac suppose to step it up? since he needs to step it up?

this thread doesn't explain itself, it just says pac needs to step it up with no facts on why he should step it up

is fighting valero a step up right now its a step down.

what about soto? thats another step down, pac would pick him apart.

Guzman? is he a step up, to some since they believe in him but after pac breaks him down fact will show why guzman never got to the elite matchup cause his not at all a step up.

I can't believe anybody would suggest fighting mab twice, eric 3x and jmm twice, still requires stepping up. well to who? the others are unproven and those three are the top proven featherweights pac can possibly fight. this thread is rediculous.

You've said it well Jules. I'd like the starter of this thread to define step up coz he clearly does not know what it means.