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    Default Re: Why has boxing not evolved with the times?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    Wont work.

    I do however think referees and judges need to be more accountable for there actions and when fit need to explain what they did and why.

    Anyone remember the HBO Lewis v Holyfield post fight interviews with the judges and fighters?

    As for video technology its open to abuse in boxing, fighters could claim a foul then wait 2-3mins for the referee to review the tape in the mean time recover.

    I also dont think compubox can score a fight there is no human element Compubox doesnt desern a jab from a crunching right hook that staggers a guy. Its a guide we like to use post fight but its not practical to use as a scoring system.
    Fighters claim fouls and get 2 or 3 minutes to recover now though. At least this way if they claimed a foul and video evidence proved otherwise it could be counted as a knockdown and they lost the round 10/8.

    One way to stop the cheating bastards


    You can tell if a ball is in or out on a tennis court but you cant tell if a person is in pain or hurt for that reason i cant see it happening. And the cases for this are very very rare this is the first bs DQ i can remember.

    Im far more worried about biast referees and judges ruining the sport.

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    Default Re: Why has boxing not evolved with the times?

    Baseball doesn't use replays. Right?

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    Default Re: Why has boxing not evolved with the times?

    Quote Originally Posted by lance Uppercut View Post
    Baseball doesn't use replays. Right?
    Neither does football.

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    Default Re: Why has boxing not evolved with the times?

    You wanna stop 2 guys in the middle of a fight from beating the holy hell out of eachother so you can see an action replay to determine whether a call was right or wrong

    some sports just werent meant for technology and boxing is one of those!!

    lets get back to 15rounds and less padding on the gloves i say...that`ll sort the men from the boys

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    Default Re: Why has boxing not evolved with the times?

    I think replays can "possibly" be used like in a low blow situation.

    Say a fighter claims to be hit and folds down, the ref. calls time and is immidiately shown a replay with a portable screen for him to see. Within let's say 3 replays (about 30 seconds or so) he should be able to signal a call. If in fact it is a low blow then time continues from the moment he called time and the fighter may rest.
    But if the ref. finds the blow to be OK and NOT below the belt maybe the fighter can get a warning or something. Incase someone tries to use it to their advantage after 3 times that a fighter has claimed to be hit low and the ref. determines that he lied he can be deducted one point in the FINAL scoring.

    (I dunno what I typed, I just went with it as the thoughts crossed my mind )


    All in all some sports were not ment to have replays...

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    Default Re: Why has boxing not evolved with the times?

    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    I think replays can "possibly" be used like in a low blow situation.

    Say a fighter claims to be hit and folds down, the ref. calls time and is immidiately shown a replay with a portable screen for him to see. Within let's say 3 replays (about 30 seconds or so) he should be able to signal a call. If in fact it is a low blow then time continues from the moment he called time and the fighter may rest.
    But if the ref. finds the blow to be OK and NOT below the belt maybe the fighter can get a warning or something. Incase someone tries to use it to their advantage after 3 times that a fighter has claimed to be hit low and the ref. determines that he lied he can be deducted one point in the FINAL scoring.

    (I dunno what I typed, I just went with it as the thoughts crossed my mind )


    All in all some sports were not ment to have replays...

    Thats not a bad idea actually. For example I would have given a point deduction for cheating when he pretended to be hit low against Calzaghe. Similar to when footballers get a yellow card for diving.
    The fighter usually stays down for at least a minute when hit low, so thats plenty of time to determine whether it was really a low blow or not.

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    Default Re: Why has boxing not evolved with the times?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikkel_K View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lance Uppercut View Post
    Baseball doesn't use replays. Right?
    Neither does football.
    American Football does use replays.
    Football/Soccer doesn't.

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    Default Re: Why has boxing not evolved with the times?

    I think boxing hasn't changed because they got it right. The judges are bullshit, but I mean think of how wide we score fights on here......alot of it can not be helped unless we go to a compubox type scoring, and WE DO NOT want that.

    So Cortez has been shitty lately. All in all boxing has never been better.
    "If there's a better chin in the world than Pryor's, it has to be on Mount Rushmore." -Pat Putnam.

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    Default Re: Why has boxing not evolved with the times?

    A replay even in limited circumstances would have stopped the robbery in the Soto fight at the weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    A replay even in limited circumstances would have stopped the robbery in the Soto fight at the weekend.
    Yeah but if the recipient of the illegal hit knows its filmed and anylised he could play act and get the other guy disqualified anyway.

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    Default Re: Why has boxing not evolved with the times?

    Why does everyone want things to change? I dont understand. Maybe I am throwback. But I am happy that we have one of the least regulated sports in the world.
    "If there's a better chin in the world than Pryor's, it has to be on Mount Rushmore." -Pat Putnam.

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    Default Re: Why has boxing not evolved with the times?

    Stuff like this would delay the action, be abused and take too much excitement away from boxing.

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    Default Re: Why has boxing not evolved with the times?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
    Stuff like this would delay the action, be abused and take too much excitement away from boxing.
    Absolutely! Imagine if someone was knocked down on a body shot and Joe Cortez (or any other bad ref in the game) decided to watch the replay because he may have thought the knockdown was caused by a low blow, the other fighter gets that time to recover.

    Sorry, I'm just looking for openings to show my disgust for Cortez' performance in the Soto fight.

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    Default Re: Why has boxing not evolved with the times?

    With as big of an Impact and life altering effect on a fighters life One lone Referee's call can & Does have....I think there can be a place for Instant replay.There are a zillion places for Announce teams at Ringside,How about one lone Monitor and Official who's sole job is to review calls and certain instances within a certain amount of time.Maybe a sort of Truth-Spell-check for the referee ,(thought that was commission's job Lol).How many times has a referee probably felt like saying.... "I have no F!!!ng Idea what just happened...I Missed It" but being in the instant they make some crap call of finality.How about a red-flag system as in Football made by opposing corner......talk about killing the momentum of the fight.

    It might also be a deterrent for some guys to "Massage" The rules with false claims with penalty of point deductions.Some refs might become too reliant and use the replay system as a crutch.I'm alll over the place here....But The controversy without replay sure keeps things Interesting & going !?

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    Default Re: Why has boxing not evolved with the times?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins View Post
    How about a red-flag system as in Football made by opposing corner......talk about killing the momentum of the fight.
    Could you imagine if they had anything like this when Lou Duva was in his prime giving referees hell? Oh man.

    But there's no reason that they couldn't have the timekeeper or someone be a replay official if they had to. There are a lot of people at any show of decent size who are on the commission payroll, it shouldn't be to much to ask if deemed necessary to have one stationed by a monitor just in case they needed a replay. There's no reason a referee should have to make a call on what a cut was caused by. Half the time they don't notice the cut until well after it was caused. Things like that need replay. They should also review point deductions, not give point deductions after the fact, but review them to make sure they were appropriate.

    One thing though, how would replay have helped the Soto fight? The blow that Cortez saw happened. It was light but it happened. Lorenzo said he couldn't go on because of that blow...what does replay do there? Is the replay official going to tell Lorenzo that that punch didn't affect him at all? That doesn't seem right as much as I disagree with the call. It's a tough spot, but should have never come to be as Cortez should have just waved it off and ignored the punch given what was happening for the 4 rounds prior.

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