Calzaghe-Pavlik poster I made.

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Funny poster but Pavlik is not in Joes league he will get raped for 12rds.

YOU COME FOWARD TO JOE YOU LOSE!

You know i keep hearing about Joes chin Hopkins dropped him while he was off balance. But i dont hear that Pavlik is not a one punch ko artist and you aint knocking Joe out with one shot.

Another thought:

In 18yrs as a pro 11yrs as world champ Calzaghe has been dropped 3x.

In 7yrs as a pro Pavlik has been dropped 2x once by a Welterweight.

Just thought id add that to this stupid Pavlik craze.

Nope actually Pavlik has been dropped 3 times once by McKart and that wasn't a proper knockdown it was a shot to the shoulder, once by Taylor as you know, and once by Zuniga and that knockdown was similar to Calzaghe's knockdown against Hopkins. A jolting shot in the 1st round. And McKart was actually a Jr Middleweight not a Welterweight. One last thing you said no one coming forward can beat Calzaghe but i seem to remember Reid playing the counter puncher, in the first 3 rounds against Calzaghe and as soon as he started coming forward and backing Calzaghe up. He started to win the fight and was unlucky not to get the nod.

Zuniga started his career at 146lbs and Calzaghe was the aggressor against Reid.

Firstly i just checked up and there is no weights showing Zuniga started at 146, the only weights that were recorded were him at 154, but most fighters start out at a lower weight class then move up. Zuniga is now currently at 168 and just knocked out a good 26-0 fighter at that weight class. Which shows he is more effective at the higher weight classes aka Middleweight/Super Middleweight. I never said Calzaghe wasn't aggressive but Reid changed his gameplan and then started to put Calzaghe on the back foot and lead with right hands, just watch the fight after 3rd round when Reid starts coming forward the fight changes around. And Pavlik is very good at putting fighters on the back foot and he can get good leverage into his shots that way as well.