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Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
ICB said that Joe has come close to losing because he got dropped, well if thats the case then Jones must also have come close because he got dropped and as someone pointed out im getting Jones opponents mixed up (its easy because they are forgetable) I think it was Del Valle.

So that answers your question as to why Jones getting dropped is close to losing

I dont believe that being dropped is close to losing but if it can be used against Calzaghe then it should be used against Jones

See how silly that was

Kessler was as good as Hopkins and Toney, before Calzaghe again proved how stellar he is Kessler was regarded as superman by alot of people here, he had unified 2 belts and been a champ for 4 years.

Toney could only manage to get 1 belt, he couldnt manage to unify anything He also had a hard time against the Blade, the same Blade that Nigel Benn wiped out 3 years earlier
No your the silly one certain knockdowns are different in boxing and you would know that if you actually watched Calzaghe vs Salem or if you actually done boxing yourself, Jones vs Del Valle was a flash knockdown and the punch wasn't that hard, where as Calzaghe was knocked down heavily by a hard right hand by Salem. And he was lucky it was just below the chin otherwise he could have been in even more trouble. Now i know your a hater Toney struggled with Barkley are you kidding me ?? you haven't seen that fight have you ?? you just made yourself look ridiculous with that comment. Try watching the fight Toney beat the living hell out of Barkley winning every round, and it was one of the finest boxing master classes in recent boxing history. Kessler was considered superman ?? please his best win was over Anthony Mundine.

Heres the first part watch the whole fight and tell me Toney struggled with Barkley


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd1fx46gW2c
Compared to what Benn did to a younger fresher Barkley Toney did struggle, I have boxed, 18 amature fights wan 12, ive seen all Calzaghes fights since Mark Delaney, I have even seen the Mario Veit rematch that wasnt televised in the uk.

Toney only had 1 belt, Kessler had the top two belts and had fought as a champ for 4 years in that division

Jones was a good fighter but Calzaghe would have made him fight like no one has, he hasnt faced anyone with Joes workrate, even though Jones is older you will still see the same tactics he would have employed if they do fight, he will lean back on the ropes with a high guard till he gets stopped, same as Johnson did.