The problem with Boxing & It's training.

[Sharla]

I would say this to you Donny while you may see the benefit of the new guy, you should also not overlook the benefits you have got from your current trainer. Although skills wise and technique-wise he may have not been as good, he has got you some good fights under your belt and conditioned you very well. Looking forward you will have the experience you gained and knowledge of how to condition yourself to incredible now you can look forward to learning the sweeter side and you will be stronger from having that experience.

When I won the regional and nationals, I was largely self trained.
I literally trained alone 5 out of 6 days a week.
Not contradicting you, just some background info!

Thanks Donny, Glad to be back.

I guess I just need to practice letting my shoulder come up and see what happens. I think I have a bit of a phobia about letting my nack hunch even a little so I've avoided a lot of things in case i hunch my back attempting to do them.

I might have to reexamine how i do them and whether or not my little phobia is based anywhere in reality.

I agree with what you say. The culture sometimes seems to be that it's disrespectful to Q what you do and I'd like to see that change in boxing too.

I also think whatever you do as Diz said you really can't assume the way you've found is the best way.

Most things never reach perfection so it shouldn't be insulting to try to find ways to improve them and you'll never be able to do that without understanding the reasons you do things.

Actually the way you feel about your boxing coaches is exactly how I feel about my PhD supervisor. I'm not sure that this is a boxing specific mentality.

There are some that can look at a student and teach/encourage them to learn and be proud when they think of something new or creative. They want you to develop the mental tools and understanding you need to improve beyond what you are merely told. There are others that just want you to stay in your box whether they are conscious of that or not.

I can see you becoming more and more independent and learning where to pick up the information you need. It may be frustrating but you're not the type to be held back long term by it.

Oh I've got a terrible habit of both hunching my back and bending too much, that'll need to be amended!

I can realte with how you feel about both training and the phd.
So many educators, whether it be school/uni or boxing educate by passing on pure theory. They give the information and expect it to be learned by heart, without any real introduction, initiation or background to the subject.
Sometimes all you need is a little more information in order to understand an issue completely

Yeah I'm not completely sure of how to get around the back hunching thing and still keep your guard up and shoulder up the way I've been told you're meant to.

Still trying to work that one out! Any advice would be great!

Yeah i think you get what i mean with school/uni educators thing. What I've noticed in research is we're NOT supposed to just wrote learn things. We're not given exams and have to regurgitate random facts. We have to problem solve but you still get the resistance to it with some researchers.

With my supervisor anything he didn't come up with it "too complicated" and that means I can't do it and there's no more explanation needed. Often I've already gotten the opinion of other scientists who are more experienced in the field and they approve so i just don't bother asking him anymore. I sneak off, do it and tell him later.

Other times he'll come up with an idea that's impractical because he's come up with it on the spot and not really thought through it but if i suggest something more practical i'm not allowed to modify his idea - even if i KNOW his idea is not going to work - unless i can get back up and permission by going over his head. I always try to get to meetings with him and the CEO to plan my work a little early so i can get things approved without his arguments.

Another PhD student has another supervisor (Russian) and he'll ask her to use grain from her plants for an experiment and plant them up and take measurements and samples for another scientist (Chinese) to analyze. Rather than including her on the meeting with this other scientist he'll just gave her orders and didn't really let her know what the final point of the experiment was going to be etc.

The whole thing was wasted because her Russian supervisor couldn't understand the strong accent of the Chinese scientist and they used the wrong grain. Weeks of work down the drain because he couldn't include her in their meetings. He couldn't relinquish that control.

Even if you're at a stage - where like you - you've been in the game long enough to have the basics and to be able to coach - some people don't like the idea of you having independent thought. They feel threatened by someone having ideas they haven't thought of or by having to see that you've grown beyond that infantile stage.