Wladimir Klitschko V David Haye Vote who would win

[rjj tszyu]

I said Haye basically because I hink it would be a case of who lands big first on who questionable chin and I think that with both having very good boxing skills but Haye being the faster I belive it would be him that got through first. Then again you have to make an arguement for Wlads reach and height advantage, but i'll stick with Haye.

[El Kabong]

I think Wlad's 1-2 spells doom for everyone in the division right now....and either you have to catch Wlad doing something wrong (ie vs Sanders he was in a crouch and hunched over therefore putting him in firing range of Sanders) OR you have to weather the storm and get Wlad tired.....seeing how Haye has neither the chin nor the stamina to "weather the storm" then he's going to have to go for broke and try to catch Wlad slipping and that is becoming harder and harder to do......and so I say Wlad would dominate Haye now and a couple years from now.

[SalTheButcher]

haye would probably lose to chagaev, he would lose to sultan, and he might even lose to valuev


he has no business even challenging klitschko

[Violent Demise]

Wlad smashes him

[Markusdarkus]

Im not voting yet its a tough one give Haye 2-3 fights against top 10 heavyweights and see how he does.

The key to Haye is his speed he hits as hard as the best and if he can keep his speed he could devistate the division.

Remember a lot of the guys at heavy are fat Cruserweights.

[rjj tszyu]

Im not voting yet its a tough one give Haye 2-3 fights against top 10 heavyweights and see how he does.

The key to Haye is his speed he hits as hard as the best and if he can keep his speed he could devistate the division.

Remember a lot of the guys at heavy are fat Cruserweights.

Im glad someone has thought about this logically.
2 of the greatest heavyweights of all time would have been in the Cruiserweight division today in Marciano and Joe Louis. So I dont read too much into cruiserweights not being big enough. Also Haye was a very big Cruiser who has already fought at heavy (I think he weighed in at 217 which is similar weight to Tyson, Ali, Frazier and other great heavys at their best) and destroyed a mediocre heavy in Bonin in the 1st round.
I'm not saying that he would beat Klitschko but what I am saying is that people on here in my opinion are under rating Haye.

[TitoFan]

Wlad has been constantly improving since his glass chin days (Sanders, Brewster), guys. He's determined to continue improving and becoming one of the greatest HWs of this generation. Save for his ridiculous pawing at Sultan for 12 rounds, his last few showings have been pretty damn good.

[rjj tszyu]

Wlad has been constantly improving since his glass chin days (Sanders, Brewster), guys. He's determined to continue improving and becoming one of the greatest HWs of this generation. Save for his ridiculous pawing at Sultan for 12 rounds, his last few showings have been pretty damn good.

I agree with this but the question marks remain over the quality of his opponents for me!

[Markusdarkus]

Wlad has been constantly improving since his glass chin days (Sanders, Brewster), guys. He's determined to continue improving and becoming one of the greatest HWs of this generation. Save for his ridiculous pawing at Sultan for 12 rounds, his last few showings have been pretty damn good.

Wlad needs Haye to cement any kind of legacy he has no comp they are either too big or not skilled.

Wlad better pray that Haye or Solis dont lose as they hold the key for him historically.

Ive cooled on Povetkin he is very skelled but fights face first and has little power.

[El Kabong]

Remember a lot of the guys at heavy are fat Cruserweights.

.....Wladimir most certainly is not one of those guys



I am hoping Haye does well because the division needs somebody.....Arreola and Witherspoon are disappointing, Malik Scott was never good and has apparently not scheduled a fight yet this year, Povetkin is not as technically good as you would think a Russian fighter would be, Chambers is great defensively but is not good when it comes to stamina, and Dimitrenko ...who knows what that guy is going to bring to the division

[Mr140]

I think that Wald while knock him out to much size for him.

[rjj tszyu]

Remember a lot of the guys at heavy are fat Cruserweights.

.....Wladimir most certainly is not one of those guys



I am hoping Haye does well because the division needs somebody.....Arreola and Witherspoon are disappointing, Malik Scott was never good and has apparently not scheduled a fight yet this year, Povetkin is not as technically good as you would think a Russian fighter would be, Chambers is great defensively but is not good when it comes to stamina, and Dimitrenko ...who knows what that guy is going to bring to the division

I would actually like to see Haye in with arreola. I don't think that arreolas got anymore than a punchers chance but it would be a good start for Haye at heavyweight and if he does get caught a couple of times it would give us a good idea as to how he would handle a heavyweights shot.

[Youngblood]

Can't really add much more to the thread, but agree that at this point is not worth voting on as Haye is not there.

I do like him as a fighter and do hope he can prove himself at HW in a few matches with decisive wins...and have that lead up to a great HW fight against Wlad. It is something this division has needed for a long time I believe.

But was a bit early for Haye to be asking for the fight...and I think he now realizes this. Those kinda far off wonderings and wishes are best left to us the fans, until such time as he earns the right.

[Markusdarkus]

Remember a lot of the guys at heavy are fat Cruserweights.

.....Wladimir most certainly is not one of those guys



I am hoping Haye does well because the division needs somebody.....Arreola and Witherspoon are disappointing, Malik Scott was never good and has apparently not scheduled a fight yet this year, Povetkin is not as technically good as you would think a Russian fighter would be, Chambers is great defensively but is not good when it comes to stamina, and Dimitrenko ...who knows what that guy is going to bring to the division

Wlad aside and a couple of giants id say 80% of the top heavyweights could make Cruserweight pretty easy, Chagaev, Ibragamov, Povetkin are all fat Cruserweights.

[HattonTheHammer]

Dont think hayes a smart enough fighter yet to beat klitschko.

Similar power to Wlad but definetely not the same level of ring smarts that i suspect would see klitschko dominate with the jab until he is in a position to take haye out.