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    Default Re: If Roy doesn't use more footwork, he might as well not show up

    Jones went in to his shell every time Trinidad attacked which wasnt often and bearing in mind Trinidad was a welter

    Jones might as well take a german bunker and place against the ropes, that is the only way I see him lasting the distance.

    Jones is too slow to engage or run away, he has no upper body movement, just a high guard he hides behind.

    At this point in time Calzaghe holds all the aces, at one point it would have been on even terms but Jones is trying to fool his fans, I dont think hes fooling himself because he didnt try fighting in his last fight with Tarver.

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    Default Re: If Roy doesn't use more footwork, he might as well not show up

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Jones went in to his shell every time Trinidad attacked which wasnt often and bearing in mind Trinidad was a welter

    Jones might as well take a german bunker and place against the ropes, that is the only way I see him lasting the distance.

    Jones is too slow to engage or run away, he has no upper body movement, just a high guard he hides behind.

    At this point in time Calzaghe holds all the aces, at one point it would have been on even terms but Jones is trying to fool his fans, I dont think hes fooling himself because he didnt try fighting in his last fight with Tarver.

    Jones knew that cuz he was much bigger than Tito that everytime he thrwew punches he just had to stand there with his hands up high cuz he knew Tito couldnt get round his defence. He saw that vs Winky and thought theres no need to punch with Tito .

    Jones got his flair back in that fight , you could see the way he was showboating that he felt in total control, but the look he had on his face in the 3rd Tarver fight is the same look I expect to see in this fight - One that says he knows he isnt doing enough to win and is struggling to keep up the pace.

    What the Tito performance did tell us is that give Jones the room to box and he will but even if he does land cleanly he wont ever try and finish the job so I dont see how he beats Joe in this fight .

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    Default Re: If Roy doesn't use more footwork, he might as well not show up

    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    What the Tito performance did tell us is that give Jones the room to box and he will but even if he does land cleanly he wont ever try and finish the job so I dont see how he beats Joe in this fight .

    What Jones last fight told me, is that give Jones an ex welter who hasnt fought for 3 years was coming off a loss in that fight and hadnt won for Four years, then he will do Ok but still not great.

    Trinidad wouldnt have been standing to the final bell with Calzaghe

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    Default Re: If Roy doesn't use more footwork, he might as well not show up

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    What the Tito performance did tell us is that give Jones the room to box and he will but even if he does land cleanly he wont ever try and finish the job so I dont see how he beats Joe in this fight .

    What Jones last fight told me, is that give Jones an ex welter who hasnt fought for 3 years was coming off a loss in that fight and hadnt won for Four years, then he will do Ok but still not great.

    Trinidad wouldnt have been standing to the final bell with Calzaghe

    You reckon ?

    You could be right but I duno . Wright didnt stop Tito and Joe hasnt been putting people over recently so Tito may have been able to last with him . Jones did a pretty clean job on Trinidad but I suspect Joes would be alot uglier and messy. As I say could be wrong but there you go.

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    tbh I don't think either of these guys are big punchers anymore, If I was betting I'd say its going to points. If there was to be a stoppage though I'd bet on Calzaghe, I just think Roy's afraid of being hit nowadays. Against Tito he looked over cagey, though saying that I still think Calzaghe on points

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    tbh I don't think either of these guys are big punchers anymore, If I was betting I'd say its going to points. If there was to be a stoppage though I'd bet on Calzaghe, I just think Roy's afraid of being hit nowadays. Against Tito he looked over cagey, though saying that I still think Calzaghe on points
    I'd say Jones may have a slight edge in power cuz he still hits correctly with the knuckle part of the glove even if he doesnt let them go that much . I havent seen Joe really sit down on his punches for a while. Even vs Manfreddo he relied on flurries.

    Still if theres a stoppage it will be through workrate, pace and Joe not letting Roy breathe and feel his age.

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    Default Re: If Roy doesn't use more footwork, he might as well not show up

    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    tbh I don't think either of these guys are big punchers anymore, If I was betting I'd say its going to points. If there was to be a stoppage though I'd bet on Calzaghe, I just think Roy's afraid of being hit nowadays. Against Tito he looked over cagey, though saying that I still think Calzaghe on points
    I'd say Jones may have a slight edge in power cuz he still hits correctly with the knuckle part of the glove even if he doesnt let them go that much . I havent seen Joe really sit down on his punches for a while. Even vs Manfreddo he relied on flurries.

    Still if theres a stoppage it will be through workrate, pace and Joe not letting Roy breathe and feel his age.
    Yeah Calzaghes hands are done, he hasn't punched well in years, but he still has enough power to gain respect off his opponents, Roy can bang but just doesn't really let the hands go any more, I guess both could surprise us, we'll have to wait and see

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    Default Re: If Roy doesn't use more footwork, he might as well not show up

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    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post

    Trinidad wouldnt have been standing to the final bell with Calzaghe
    Never know, we may find out one day, after the Jones fight.

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    Default Re: If Roy doesn't use more footwork, he might as well not show up

    I really wish these two fought when Jones was in his prime...Roy would have exposed Joe for the over hyped fighter he is. Obviously Jones is now well past his prime...and he certainly could lose this fight. BUT...Joe's performance against Hopkins hardly inspires confidence. I personally had Hopkins at the VERY LEAST fighting Joe to a draw in their fight. Hopkins was past his prime as well, was hardly active in that fight, and pretty much through only one punch (the straight right). Yet he landed the more meaningful punches. Of course Joe threw a ton of pitter patter punches...most of which didn't land or cause damage. What does this all mean to me....that Jones vs. Calzaghe is a toss up fight. Even now...Jones is the better athlete. But i guess you can say that Joe is the mentally more confident fighter in recent years. If Roy can show up sharp and active...he can win.

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    Default Re: If Roy doesn't use more footwork, he might as well not show up

    [quote=Andre;557443]
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post

    Trinidad wouldnt have been standing to the final bell with Calzaghe
    Never know, we may find out one day, after the Jones fight.

    Retirement home vs retirement home will be comming to a channel near you.

    I cant belive we just had the Fennich verses Azuma embassment.
    By the way ,You guys here were great, not wasting one post on it.

    I didnt say that .

    That was a quote from Ross

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