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    Default Re: Did visiting mcclellan ruin Roy Jones Jr??

    I see an interview in 2006 and he had not visited Gerald.

    And yes only Jones and Benn have ever done anything for the G-Man (boxers) i know Bert Sugar gave him $100,000 in 99ish.

    And again it did not ruin Jones, his step up in compitition ruined him. Remember Jones never fought anyone remotely elite from 1994 until Tarver in 2003.

    thats what caught Roy out not the G-Man.

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    There was a segment on a news report a couple years ago about G-Man and they were saying that Roy has refused to visit him until his career is over, but has helped the McClellan out financially.

    People have said that the McClellan tragedy made Roy more tenative in the ring, but I don't see it.

    In the fights immediately following Benn-McClellan, I didn't see Roy being more tenative.

    Antoine Byrd: Roy jumped on Byrd and stopped him in 2 minutes.
    Vinny Pazienza: Roy had little problem turning it on in round 6 to finish Paz. He did sort of motion to the ref that the fight should've been stopped after the 2nd KD, but it wasn't like Roy fought tenative or held back.

    Tony Thornton: After the KD late in round 2, Roy jumped on Tony and the fight was stopped shortly thereafter.

    Merqui Sosa: Good short fight, Jones won in a couple rounds.

    Eric Lucas: Haven't seen this one in years.

    Bryant Brannon: Again, Roy did tell the ref to stop it as he saw that Brannon was done, but Roy showed no signs up to that point that he'd lost his offensive instincts or fire. He'd already dropped Brannon twice and the guy was done in the corner.


    If anything, I felt that Roy facing bigger guys at 175 made him more content to coast and win a decision.

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    Default Re: Did visiting mcclellan ruin Roy Jones Jr??

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    There was a segment on a news report a couple years ago about G-Man and they were saying that Roy has refused to visit him until his career is over, but has helped the McClellan out financially.

    People have said that the McClellan tragedy made Roy more tenative in the ring, but I don't see it.

    In the fights immediately following Benn-McClellan, I didn't see Roy being more tenative.

    Antoine Byrd: Roy jumped on Byrd and stopped him in 2 minutes.
    Vinny Pazienza: Roy had little problem turning it on in round 6 to finish Paz. He did sort of motion to the ref that the fight should've been stopped after the 2nd KD, but it wasn't like Roy fought tenative or held back.

    Tony Thornton: After the KD late in round 2, Roy jumped on Tony and the fight was stopped shortly thereafter.

    Merqui Sosa: Good short fight, Jones won in a couple rounds.

    Eric Lucas: Haven't seen this one in years.

    Bryant Brannon: Again, Roy did tell the ref to stop it as he saw that Brannon was done, but Roy showed no signs up to that point that he'd lost his offensive instincts or fire. He'd already dropped Brannon twice and the guy was done in the corner.


    If anything, I felt that Roy facing bigger guys at 175 made him more content to coast and win a decision.


    When Jones finally stepped up to semi-elite he realised you can get away with those flashy moves against the cans he fought from Toney but not against even solid journeyman.

    Jones is a victim of being ultra protected.

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    Default Re: Did visiting mcclellan ruin Roy Jones Jr??

    No chance! Toney was unbeaten and considered the best p4p fighter, he had just KO Williams dramatically and sliced Barclay, but Jones dominated the fight which no one would have thought he would have done so easily.

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    Default Re: Did visiting mcclellan ruin Roy Jones Jr??

    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Thread Stealer View Post
    There was a segment on a news report a couple years ago about G-Man and they were saying that Roy has refused to visit him until his career is over, but has helped the McClellan out financially.

    People have said that the McClellan tragedy made Roy more tenative in the ring, but I don't see it.

    In the fights immediately following Benn-McClellan, I didn't see Roy being more tenative.

    Antoine Byrd: Roy jumped on Byrd and stopped him in 2 minutes.
    Vinny Pazienza: Roy had little problem turning it on in round 6 to finish Paz. He did sort of motion to the ref that the fight should've been stopped after the 2nd KD, but it wasn't like Roy fought tenative or held back.

    Tony Thornton: After the KD late in round 2, Roy jumped on Tony and the fight was stopped shortly thereafter.

    Merqui Sosa: Good short fight, Jones won in a couple rounds.

    Eric Lucas: Haven't seen this one in years.

    Bryant Brannon: Again, Roy did tell the ref to stop it as he saw that Brannon was done, but Roy showed no signs up to that point that he'd lost his offensive instincts or fire. He'd already dropped Brannon twice and the guy was done in the corner.


    If anything, I felt that Roy facing bigger guys at 175 made him more content to coast and win a decision.


    When Jones finally stepped up to semi-elite he realised you can get away with those flashy moves against the cans he fought from Toney but not against even solid journeyman.

    Jones is a victim of being ultra protected.
    You are so way off on your assesment of Roy it's not even funny. He'd have dealt easily with Tarver and Johnson just afew years prior, it was just that his reflexes which he so depended on were diminished. Watch any Jones fight 1993-2001 compared to Roy-Tarver 1 and it's obvious it's not the same athlete in there, I actually remember catching the fight half way through and telling my mates 'wow that guy looks like Jones Jr' then I saw the name on his shorts and realised it WAS him.

    As for G-man, Roy was always cautious and had a tendency to carry opponents, he showed in the second griffin fight what he was capable when pissed. Watch his interview after that fight and you'll have answers to some of the Q's on this thread.

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    Default Re: Did visiting mcclellan ruin Roy Jones Jr??

    Quote Originally Posted by Bomp View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Thread Stealer View Post
    There was a segment on a news report a couple years ago about G-Man and they were saying that Roy has refused to visit him until his career is over, but has helped the McClellan out financially.

    People have said that the McClellan tragedy made Roy more tenative in the ring, but I don't see it.

    In the fights immediately following Benn-McClellan, I didn't see Roy being more tenative.

    Antoine Byrd: Roy jumped on Byrd and stopped him in 2 minutes.
    Vinny Pazienza: Roy had little problem turning it on in round 6 to finish Paz. He did sort of motion to the ref that the fight should've been stopped after the 2nd KD, but it wasn't like Roy fought tenative or held back.

    Tony Thornton: After the KD late in round 2, Roy jumped on Tony and the fight was stopped shortly thereafter.

    Merqui Sosa: Good short fight, Jones won in a couple rounds.

    Eric Lucas: Haven't seen this one in years.

    Bryant Brannon: Again, Roy did tell the ref to stop it as he saw that Brannon was done, but Roy showed no signs up to that point that he'd lost his offensive instincts or fire. He'd already dropped Brannon twice and the guy was done in the corner.


    If anything, I felt that Roy facing bigger guys at 175 made him more content to coast and win a decision.


    When Jones finally stepped up to semi-elite he realised you can get away with those flashy moves against the cans he fought from Toney but not against even solid journeyman.

    Jones is a victim of being ultra protected.
    You are so way off on your assesment of Roy it's not even funny. He'd have dealt easily with Tarver and Johnson just afew years prior, it was just that his reflexes which he so depended on were diminished. Watch any Jones fight 1993-2001 compared to Roy-Tarver 1 and it's obvious it's not the same athlete in there, I actually remember catching the fight half way through and telling my mates 'wow that guy looks like Jones Jr' then I saw the name on his shorts and realised it WAS him.

    As for G-man, Roy was always cautious and had a tendency to carry opponents, he showed in the second griffin fight what he was capable when pissed. Watch his interview after that fight and you'll have answers to some of the Q's on this thread.


    Tarver was the only good fighter he fought in 9 bloody years and he loses!

    All the props for Toney but from 94-03 how the hell can he not look good fighting that opposition!

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