Cowardly klitscho and Tony "The Kitten" Thompson make me sick!!! [spoilers]

[Kirkland Laing]

Wlad is the best out there...and by the end of his career he's going to be mentioned with some big names....maybe even Lennox Lewis


And before people argue with me about that, Wlad is 32 and if Haye IS a good heavyweight and Wlad KO's him and unifies the belts along with beating some other top level fighters maybe a Solis or Povetkin after they become more seasoned fighters then people are going to have to give him SOME credit for being a good fighter.


Wlad still doesn't get any credit for beating Sam Peter!

He isn't a good fighter. He's the least worst heavyweight in a garbage division. If he'd been born 20 years earlier nobody would ever have heard of him.

[El Kabong]

He isn't a good fighter. He's the least worst heavyweight in a garbage division. If he'd been born 20 years earlier nobody would ever have heard of him.

Yeah they would have 1988 the heavyweight division wasn't exactly STACKED....sure Lewis, Holyfield, Bowe,....Tyson was on the decline. Wlad would have been up there with them.

List the contenders those guys faced and Wlad would beat them

[Kirkland Laing]

He isn't a good fighter. He's the least worst heavyweight in a garbage division. If he'd been born 20 years earlier nobody would ever have heard of him.

Yeah they would have 1988 the heavyweight division wasn't exactly STACKED....sure Lewis, Holyfield, Bowe,....Tyson was on the decline. Wlad would have been up there with them.

List the contenders those guys faced and Wlad would beat them

He stayed well out of the way of anybody good fighting journeymen in Germany till they retired, clearly he knew his limits even before he discovered his jaw was constructed out of the finest crystal. Your boy got beat by Ross "The Boss" Purrity, a garbage fighter with a losing record. He fights knowing one good punch on his china chin will put him on his Frankenstein arse yet again which is why his fights are always rubbish. No heavyweight with a glass jaw will ever be ranked as a great heavyweight. He only holds a belt because there are no good heavyweights anymore.

[El Kabong]

Wlad tired out vs Purrity...hey shit happens Wlad's champ now so fucking live with it

[Kirkland Laing]

Wlad tired out vs Purrity...hey shit happens Wlad's champ now so fucking live with it

He's only champion by default. In any other era the glass-jawed Frankenstein lookalike would be in a freak show or farming cabbages in whichever former Soviet hellhole he originally comes from.

[El Kabong]

He's only champion by default. In any other era the glass-jawed Frankenstein lookalike would be in a freak show or farming cabbages in whichever former Soviet hellhole he originally comes from.

Uh huh...Joe Louis was also Heavyweight Champion "by default" as was Rocky Marciano as was Larry Holmes and Mike Tyson....hell by your rational the only guys to earn it by having depth in the division are Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Bowe, Holyfield, and Lewis.

Wladimir is THE BEST and not by a little bit either...if you're waiting for Haye why don't you wait til he has actually FOUGHT a heavyweight hell I'd take you pumping up Odlainer Solis before Haye only because Solis has fought all his fights at heavyweight (and he KO'd Haye in the Olympics).

[Kirkland Laing]

He's only champion by default. In any other era the glass-jawed Frankenstein lookalike would be in a freak show or farming cabbages in whichever former Soviet hellhole he originally comes from.

Uh huh...Joe Louis was also Heavyweight Champion "by default" as was Rocky Marciano as was Larry Holmes and Mike Tyson....hell by your rational the only guys to earn it by having depth in the division are Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Bowe, Holyfield, and Lewis.

Wladimir is THE BEST and not by a little bit either...if you're waiting for Haye why don't you wait til he has actually FOUGHT a heavyweight hell I'd take you pumping up Odlainer Solis before Haye only because Solis has fought all his fights at heavyweight (and he KO'd Haye in the Olympics).

David Haye is going to beat your boy like a gong. Unless he gets knocked out first of course.

[amat]

Laing disagreeing with Lyle

I think what people are misunderstanding is, the reason people don't give him credit for beating Sam Peter is because they don't think anything of Peter or anyone else in the division. That's the whole point, it's a shitty division with a mediocre champion. Yeah he has top wins over top contenders like Byrd and Peter, but if people don't think anything of Byrd and Peter then obviously they aren't going to rate those wins.

[Kirkland Laing]

Laing disagreeing with Lyle

I think what people are misunderstanding is, the reason people don't give him credit for beating Sam Peter is because they don't think anything of Peter or anyone else in the division. That's the whole point, it's a shitty division with a mediocre champion. Yeah he has top wins over top contenders like Byrd and Peter, but if people don't think anything of Byrd and Peter then obviously they aren't going to rate those wins.

What can I do? Lyle is always wrong about everything.