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    Default Re: WBC extend deadline for Froch-Taylor title clash

    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    If taylor doesnt sign, hes a coward. simple as, people are actually fearing Froch at this momment and Inkin made that clear. There is no excuse for Taylor not fighting Froch other than he is scared. Its a step back to the top for Taylor, so why isnt he taking it


    Taylor has fought Bernard Hopkins when he was one of the top P4P, Winky Wright when he was 2 P4P and Kelly Pavlik twice who might be the scariest guy in boxing, him or Cotto. He's not scared of Carl Froch.
    Winky was never p4p number 2 was he? and even so Carl hits A LOT harder than winky wright can. Maybe after loosing to Pavlik twice he doesnt want to get involved with a live fighter like Froch. Lacy an easy oppanent for Taylor IMO.

    I dont get why he wont fight Froch instead of Lacy, its for the WBC belt. Lacy is a complete bum and hes proved that in his last 3 outings. Froch is a true contender compared with Lacy.

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    Default Re: WBC extend deadline for Froch-Taylor title clash

    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
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    If taylor doesnt sign, hes a coward. simple as, people are actually fearing Froch at this momment and Inkin made that clear. There is no excuse for Taylor not fighting Froch other than he is scared. Its a step back to the top for Taylor, so why isnt he taking it


    Taylor has fought Bernard Hopkins when he was one of the top P4P, Winky Wright when he was 2 P4P and Kelly Pavlik twice who might be the scariest guy in boxing, him or Cotto. He's not scared of Carl Froch.
    Winky was never p4p number 2 was he? and even so Carl hits A LOT harder than winky wright can. Maybe after loosing to Pavlik twice he doesnt want to get involved with a live fighter like Froch. Lacy an easy oppanent for Taylor IMO.

    I dont get why he wont fight Froch instead of Lacy, its for the WBC belt. Lacy is a complete bum and hes proved that in his last 3 outings. Froch is a true contender compared with Lacy.
    Yes he was number 2 before and even on some lists after the Taylor fight. Froch is going to get exposed it's just a matter of who will do the exposing. Unless he revamps his game completely.

    The reasons are quite simple. HBO wants him to fight Lacy. Lacy brings more money and is more highly rated.

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    Default Re: WBC extend deadline for Froch-Taylor title clash

    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
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    Taylor has fought Bernard Hopkins when he was one of the top P4P, Winky Wright when he was 2 P4P and Kelly Pavlik twice who might be the scariest guy in boxing, him or Cotto. He's not scared of Carl Froch.
    Winky was never p4p number 2 was he? and even so Carl hits A LOT harder than winky wright can. Maybe after loosing to Pavlik twice he doesnt want to get involved with a live fighter like Froch. Lacy an easy oppanent for Taylor IMO.

    I dont get why he wont fight Froch instead of Lacy, its for the WBC belt. Lacy is a complete bum and hes proved that in his last 3 outings. Froch is a true contender compared with Lacy.
    Yes he was number 2 before and even on some lists after the Taylor fight. Froch is going to get exposed it's just a matter of who will do the exposing. Unless he revamps his game completely.

    The reasons are quite simple. HBO wants him to fight Lacy. Lacy brings more money and is more highly rated.
    You need to watch more of Froch he really is going to bring problems to any fighter at 168-175. You will see trust me, he forces the fight and you simply cant box him for 12 rounds. He makes people trade blows, this is where he is deadly, with his power and nimble accurate punches, it wears fighters down. That why a fight with Taylor would be perfect for Froch, Taylor gets tierd down the strech and he also likes to trade punches, what carl likes doing best. Taylor may be a bit quicker, but Taylor will slow down when hes getting constant pressure from Froch, which he will apply for 12 rounds none stop.

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    Default Re: WBC extend deadline for Froch-Taylor title clash

    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    Lacy is a complete bum and hes proved that in his last 3 outings. Froch is a true contender compared with Lacy.
    Thats a real asshole type comment, wouldnt you agree... Froch has proved dick!!!!!! so I dont know were all this true contender crap is coming from

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    Default Re: WBC extend deadline for Froch-Taylor title clash

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    Lacy is a complete bum and hes proved that in his last 3 outings. Froch is a true contender compared with Lacy.
    Thats a real asshole type comment, wouldnt you agree... Froch has proved dick!!!!!! so I dont know were all this true contender crap is coming from
    Lacy really has though; Domintated one side beating by JC, Tyspko was robbed IMO and he bearly beat Manfraudo. Therefore proving me point that hes a bum, hes never going to challenge for a title again and Taylor would beat him easily. Froch is a true contender, hes number in the WBC, Inkin fagged out of his last fight, hes 23-0 19kos, I think that proves that hes certainly belongs to fight with the higher tier fighters in the 168 weights class. Thats why I want this Taylor match badly. Either way, Froch will move on to bigger better fights if Taylor doesnt take this fight.

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    Default Re: WBC extend deadline for Froch-Taylor title clash

    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    Lacy is a complete bum and hes proved that in his last 3 outings. Froch is a true contender compared with Lacy.
    Thats a real asshole type comment, wouldnt you agree... Froch has proved dick!!!!!! so I dont know were all this true contender crap is coming from
    Lacy really has though; Domintated one side beating by JC, Tyspko was robbed IMO and he bearly beat Manfraudo. Therefore proving me point that hes a bum, hes never going to challenge for a title again and Taylor would beat him easily. Froch is a true contender, hes number in the WBC, Inkin fagged out of his last fight, hes 23-0 19kos, I think that proves that hes certainly belongs to fight with the higher tier fighters in the 168 weights class. Thats why I want this Taylor match badly. Either way, Froch will move on to bigger better fights if Taylor doesnt take this fight.
    Who did he prove it against? No matter what you say, Lacy was still champion, defended multiple times and against better fighters then Froch has ever faced. He's had a bad run I will admit that, but the fact remains that Calzaghe wasn't even Ring champion until he beat Lacy, that has to account for something.

    Froch to this point has done nothing but beat C level fighters and struggle with some of them. I can see how you like Froch, exciting and has power but it's pretty obvious that he's got the style that will fail at the top level or even on the second tier.

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    Default Re: WBC extend deadline for Froch-Taylor title clash

    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post

    Thats a real asshole type comment, wouldnt you agree... Froch has proved dick!!!!!! so I dont know were all this true contender crap is coming from
    Lacy really has though; Domintated one side beating by JC, Tyspko was robbed IMO and he bearly beat Manfraudo. Therefore proving me point that hes a bum, hes never going to challenge for a title again and Taylor would beat him easily. Froch is a true contender, hes number in the WBC, Inkin fagged out of his last fight, hes 23-0 19kos, I think that proves that hes certainly belongs to fight with the higher tier fighters in the 168 weights class. Thats why I want this Taylor match badly. Either way, Froch will move on to bigger better fights if Taylor doesnt take this fight.
    Who did he prove it against? No matter what you say, Lacy was still champion, defended multiple times and against better fighters then Froch has ever faced. He's had a bad run I will admit that, but the fact remains that Calzaghe wasn't even Ring champion until he beat Lacy, that has to account for something.

    Froch to this point has done nothing but beat C level fighters and struggle with some of them. I can see how you like Froch, exciting and has power but it's pretty obvious that he's got the style that will fail at the top level or even on the second tier.
    Its not been his fault about the level of fighters he has faught. Carl fights whoever is put in front of him, Inkin was the step up and its a shame he didnt get it. If he cant fight Taylor there is a lot of other top 10 decent fighters who would step up to fight Froch.

    1 .- Carl Froch (GB) BBBoC/COMM
    2 .- Jermain Taylor (US)
    3 .- Dennis Inkin (Russia) INTL
    4 .- Jean Pascal (Haiti/Canada) LATINO/NABF
    5 .- Jurgen Brahmer (Germany)
    6 .- Karo Murat (Germany) EBU
    7 .- Andre Ward (US)
    8 .- Fulgencio Zuñiga (Colombia)
    9 .- Markus Beyer (Germany)
    10 .- Alejandro Berrio (Colombia)

    Stick any of those fighters in with him and Froch would knock them out. Lets hope he steps up well for this fight.

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    Default Re: WBC extend deadline for Froch-Taylor title clash

    Andre Ward would box Carl Froch's face off. Taylor would do it even worse. Any of the other fighters would be a suitable test for Froch, Inkin is pretty good from what I hear and never heard of that guy in the middle. But there is no way Froch KO's all of that guy, you said I haven't watched enough Froch, think you need to watch a little less because you have clearly fallen in love with him a bit to much,

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    Default Re: WBC extend deadline for Froch-Taylor title clash

    Taylor is in a different league to anyone Froch has faced.

    But

    For what it's worth, Lou DiBella has said - Froch will be a much harder fight for Taylor than Lacy will

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    Default Re: WBC extend deadline for Froch-Taylor title clash

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Taylor is in a different league to anyone Froch has faced.

    But

    For what it's worth, Lou DiBella has said Froch will be a much harder fight for Taylor than Lacy will
    Even if Lacy fights Taylor at the level he was at against Manfredo, I doubt that. Maybe a more risky fight but I don't think it would actually be harder. That's me though, but I don't think Froch will present many problems at all aside from power but Taylor has a good chin and I doubt Froch gets his power to land much anyways.

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    Default Re: WBC extend deadline for Froch-Taylor title clash

    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
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    Taylor is in a different league to anyone Froch has faced.

    But

    For what it's worth, Lou DiBella has said Froch will be a much harder fight for Taylor than Lacy will
    Even if Lacy fights Taylor at the level he was at against Manfredo, I doubt that. Maybe a more risky fight but I don't think it would actually be harder. That's me though, but I don't think Froch will present many problems at all aside from power but Taylor has a good chin and I doubt Froch gets his power to land much anyways.
    That is where you have forgotton about two of Frochs other strenghts; Nimble footwork, with the range of a fighter figured out pretty early in the fight and accuracy of a punch. Froch aint wasting anything in there.

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    Default Re: WBC extend deadline for Froch-Taylor title clash

    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Taylor is in a different league to anyone Froch has faced.

    But

    For what it's worth, Lou DiBella has said Froch will be a much harder fight for Taylor than Lacy will
    Even if Lacy fights Taylor at the level he was at against Manfredo, I doubt that. Maybe a more risky fight but I don't think it would actually be harder. That's me though, but I don't think Froch will present many problems at all aside from power but Taylor has a good chin and I doubt Froch gets his power to land much anyways.
    That is where you have forgotton about two of Frochs other strenghts; Nimble footwork, with the range of a fighter figured out pretty early in the fight and accuracy of a punch. Froch aint wasting anything in there.
    Nimble footwork? Did you see the Dale Westerman fight? A guy named Dale Westerman completely worked Froch's footwork. The smaller guy, he was faster on his feet and with the hands and I think took the first few rounds. No way Froch has anywhere near the footwork to compete with Jermain Taylor.

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    Default Re: WBC extend deadline for Froch-Taylor title clash

    The Westerman fight was a very long time ago. Froch has improved A Lot since then and hes improving with every fight he has. Either way Carl still stopped Westerman...

    Thats the thing you simply cant box Froch for twelve rounds, at some stage he will have to trade and if he gets caught he will slow down, like every other fighter has tried to do and failed. If you get hit with a Froch punch you will slow down, you simply cant take that power and still be quick as you were before you got hit with it.

    Im not in love with Froch I just support my favourite fighter.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5N16RQwyFU

    here is a footwork video for you.

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    Default Re: WBC extend deadline for Froch-Taylor title clash

    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
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    Taylor is in a different league to anyone Froch has faced.

    But

    For what it's worth, Lou DiBella has said Froch will be a much harder fight for Taylor than Lacy will
    Even if Lacy fights Taylor at the level he was at against Manfredo, I doubt that. Maybe a more risky fight but I don't think it would actually be harder. That's me though, but I don't think Froch will present many problems at all aside from power but Taylor has a good chin and I doubt Froch gets his power to land much anyways.
    Maybe they see it as - Lacy has been totally exposed. Froch, although looks semi-crap more than good.. is unbeaten, ambitious, has a good chin, is a big supermiddle and can bang.

    Team Taylor are far more more interested in fighting Lacy than Froch, that's for sure.. but totally understandable as it makes them more MONEY

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    Default Re: WBC extend deadline for Froch-Taylor title clash

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Taylor is in a different league to anyone Froch has faced.

    But

    For what it's worth, Lou DiBella has said Froch will be a much harder fight for Taylor than Lacy will
    Even if Lacy fights Taylor at the level he was at against Manfredo, I doubt that. Maybe a more risky fight but I don't think it would actually be harder. That's me though, but I don't think Froch will present many problems at all aside from power but Taylor has a good chin and I doubt Froch gets his power to land much anyways.
    Maybe they see it as - Lacy has been totally exposed. Froch, although looks semi-crap more than good.. is unbeaten, ambitious, has a good chin, is a big supermiddle and can bang.

    Team Taylor are far more more interested in fighting Lacy than Froch, that's for sure.. but totally understandable as it makes them more MONEY

    . . . . . . and less risk

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