So will Marquez expose Conamayor?

[Tam Seddon]

He gets on at my favourtie fighter, why cant I dish some back

[p4pking]

He gets on at my favourtie fighter, why cant I dish some back

Because the case for Froch being a Fraud is perfectly valid, as he is a completely unproven 32 year old prospect who has fought domestic level competition and has a style that almost surely will not work consistently against top fighters. Casamayor is an ATG who is well past it, but still a crafty veteran champion. In my opinion the only thing Froch being from the UK has to do with the flak he gets is because if he were from America he would've already been in with better fighters and been "exposed" himself.

[leftylee]

Conamayor LOL

[Tam Seddon]

Well its every British fighter that falls into this catagory really, so why cant I dish a bit back ? and from has just turned 31 2 weeks ago

[amat]

He's not making names like that for establish legends, just Khan and Froch, two unproven fighters. And Froch is a fraud imo, I actually subscribe to that.

At this point, Casamayor can't be exposed. I do think Marquez would win but don't be surprised if he hits the deck.

[Tam Seddon]

He even said himself he hates every fighter from Britiain just because they are British. Im not trying to have a stab at Casa here, I actually like him, its just a little hit on VD.

No quarms here boys.

[leftylee]

I think people should go easy on Froch. You can't blame him for not wanting a strap and calling out the big names. I'm fine people callling him Fraud if he fights a top name and gets beat but wait until that happens to start the hate campaign

[Violent Demise]

He's not making names like that for establish legends, just Khan and Froch, two unproven fighters. And Froch is a fraud imo, I actually subscribe to that.

At this point, Casamayor can't be exposed. I do think Marquez would win but don't be surprised if he hits the deck.

That's pretty much it. As much as I would love to continue to use Calcrappy. I can't. It's not possible. He's beaten some fighters. Con and Fraud ain't done shit. While Casamayor has done a lot in his career. He's a borderline HOF. A win over Marquez will get him in.

Keep trying Tam.

[Dark Lord Al]

You know what , i think although both are a bit past their best ( and Joel is more past his best than JMM) this fight could be one for the purists , a real nice boxing bout , personally i would lean towards JMM on a split points , but its a real pick'em fight .

[Galaxy]

You know what , i think although both are a bit past their best ( and Joel is more past his best than JMM) this fight could be one for the purists , a real nice boxing bout , personally i would lean towards JMM on a split points , but its a real pick'em fight .

Maybe but the Katsidis fight was very entertaining & you know Marquez is coming to fight! It has the potential to be explosive!

[CutMeMick]

You know what , i think although both are a bit past their best ( and Joel is more past his best than JMM) this fight could be one for the purists , a real nice boxing bout , personally i would lean towards JMM on a split points , but its a real pick'em fight .

I think its 50/50 as far as where they both stand.

Age Casa's older
Fights JMM has more
Hard fights/Wars JMM has more
Wear & Tare JMM has shown it a bit more
Showings in recent fights Casa has looked worst

[amat]

He's not making names like that for establish legends, just Khan and Froch, two unproven fighters. And Froch is a fraud imo, I actually subscribe to that.

At this point, Casamayor can't be exposed. I do think Marquez would win but don't be surprised if he hits the deck.

That's pretty much it. As much as I would love to continue to use Calcrappy. I can't. It's not possible. He's beaten some fighters. Con and Fraud ain't done shit. While Casamayor has done a lot in his career. He's a borderline HOF. A win over Marquez will get him in.

Keep trying Tam.

That's interesting you feel that way. I would think him a pretty safe bet to get in at least at some point in his career win here or not.

Also it should be pointed out that Conamayor really is a lackluster attempt to make one of these names.

[pacfan]

Expose?!?!!

Ok, let's first give Marquez a big A+ for taking Casamayor - give credit where credit is due...

...but honestly, expose Joe?! ... I think it'll be the other way around. Look at all Marquez fights, he has difficulty with fellow counterpuncher and a 'boxer' type fighters - I've seen him fighting a couple counterpunchers with nothing much happening for 12 rounds. He's not good at chasing fighters, he's good a waiting for 'em. Casa being a pure 'boxer' type fighter with a legit lightweight power, and a pretty big one at that, IMO will spell trouble for Marquez...

All right, I know the same 'ol folks will say the same ol' predictable thing like, 'it's cause you're a pac-fool' and indeed I'm proud to say I am, but that ain't no reason I'm saying this. I've never being a biased fool like 'you know who' guys who always attack us in the same predicatable way day in and day out. I said pac lost to marquez in the first fight... but never the second one (just look at my good friend Icecold, a Marquez fan - if he score the 11th round correctly, he'd come with a draw in his scorecard, the round me and Taeth have been telling him to re-watch and re-score but which he never did, I guess). And again, so the same ol' predictable guys won't accuse me again in a same ol' predictable way, I will boldly say this: I'll put Marquez P4P #1 if he convincingly beat Casamayor! I hope the guys I'm refering to, and you know who, could be man enough some day to admit what's real and what's purely their fanboy fantasy...

I'll have to agree with Violent D on this one...

That's pretty much it. As much as I would love to continue to use Calcrappy. I can't. It's not possible. He's beaten some fighters. Con and Fraud ain't done shit. While Casamayor has done a lot in his career. He's a borderline HOF. A win over Marquez will get him in.

Keep trying Tam.

Have more confidence, my man, it ain't like your usual you.

[ssss]

What a stupid thread Casamayor is one of the finest super featherweights + lightweights of the modern era i think he beat Corrales 3 times and i think he deserved the decision against Castillo i did have him just losing Freitas fight but his only convincing loss was to Cruz and that was due to ring rust plus his age plus he is probably one of the most skilled fighters in the world at the moment this is totally disrespectful to a great fighter like Casamayor

[leftylee]

Well its every British fighter that falls into this catagory really, so why cant I dish a bit back ? and from has just turned 31 2 weeks ago

I understand. VD does make me laugh with the Brit names he has. A Mere Con is a classic, you have to admit that even being from the UK Pretty harsh to call Froch Fraud as nobody knows what he's like with higher competition coz he ain't shared a ring with one yet. He's done more than fine with domestic level. Ain't his fault he can't get a good name on his record. He's called out Calzaghe numerous time, called Taylor out and Inkin pulled out twice. Nobody wants a part of him.